Peter,

>Ok, we modify Phoenix to read the Type DTD, but what good does that do us if 
>all components that have that DTD use the features that Phoenix does not 
>support? What benefit do those components get from the richer DTD if they do 
>not utilize its features?
>  
>
Thus the DTD is part of the API?  I think so.

>Is the DTD compatibility a red herring? 
>
>
>imho, we need to resolve the 4 no's that exist between containerkit and type.
>
>Steve: I'm unsure of what the "extensions" are. Stage's are the lifecycle 
>extensions, yes? If so how to extensions fit in?
>
>Pete:  You describe some "hairy" problems 
>(http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=avalon-dev&m=102833233625631&w=2), but we 
>can work through them, yes? 
>
Yes....

>Collectively we are a very smart bunch and can figure anything out.
>
>
>Any one final thought, PLUR 
>(http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/spirit/plur/PLUR.html, to show my roots :) .. 
>and it *is* apache related.. brian behlendorf started hyperreal..
>  
>
But only with the Respect, noted as missing in Brian's doc.

I'd like to know one other thing.  Somthing I thank may be part of the 
bad karma here, have significant changes been submitted prior to a 
decent discussion and a vote.  If yes, then we have a real simple way of 
ensuring accord in the future....

- Paul


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