On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 19:10, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> IMHO Cocoon components or Plexus are not a good example for this case,
> being them opensource Apache projects that are developing stuff *with*
> Avalon, not *for* Avalon.

Well in all cases it is not being developed for Avalon - they are being 
developed because they are useful utilitys. They plan to make them was for 
their own toolkits (persistence, rmi and one gui framework). 

If they support our needs then I have no problems using them - we use qdox and 
it was not built specifically for avalon and no avalon developers are on the 
team. 

If the toolkits don't meet our needs then we can move on but otherwise I see 
no reason to not work with external groups.

> But IMHO I fail to see why I am leading to division. If the Avalon
> community is united, nobody, and surely not I, can divide it with a
> couple of opinions.

It only takes one.

> > Would have been much better if someone who had contributed to avalon
> > consistently over a long period had been nominated. The best candidate in
> > my opinion would have been Berin.
>
> IIUC you nominated yourself.
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=avalon-dev&m=103706979421193&w=2

And I wouldn't want it - just that no other long term committers had nominated 
themselves by that stage.

-- 
Cheers,

Peter Donald
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