-Andy
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Berin Loritsch wrote: > I still disagree rather strongly with you. Take a look at J2EE. Sun > wrote the specs and the compliance testing framework. They even have > a reference implementation--which I may add they do not recommend for > prime-time. The real J2EE systems are written by third parties like > JBoss, BEA, IBM, etc. > > I don't see how having one super-container is going to help. I doubt > we would be able to come to one vision. The fact that consumers have > to choose between systems with largely overlapping functionality in > J2EE systems proves that consumers are intelligent enough to find out > what their needs are. What we need to do is provide enough information > to help the consumer make their decision.Sun designs a framework, so does Avalon. Sun ships *ONE* reference implementation of that framework and allows external entities to build other implementations. Why should Avalon ship more than one reference implementation? Cocoon is also a framework. Tell me: if Cocoon was shipping four different implementations of the Cocoon internal interfaces for every time a new vocal developer comes in and doesn't like what the community decides, would that make it perceived as a better project from the user community? Think about it.
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