> Sun designs a framework, so does Avalon.
> Sun ships *ONE* reference implementation of that framework and allows
> external entities to build other implementations.

Sun ships reference implementations of J2ME with multiple profiles, J2SE and
J2EE.  This is part of my point regarding why I do not believe that the
"ubercontainer" will materialize anytime soon.

I agree 100% with you on the community issues.

        --- Noel


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