Alek, +1 to contrib'ing your ant task.
-- dims On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 02:33:56 -0500, Aleksander Slominski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Farhaan Mohideen wrote: > > >Hi > > > >I am all for delivering high-quality design/code. I think we were at this > >same position at the end of December. Glen, Dims, Sam, Alek, > > > i am swamped with work but i am very concerned about client and server > API especially how easy to use they are (WS-Addressing async?) and in > particular how to enable flexible XML-Java databinding (i think Mark D. > Hansen described need for it pretty well) > > so i would like to look on M1 from this point of view: what is that > developer needs to do to get service described in WSDL with doc/literal > implemented and to access such service? do we have wsdl2java with > pluggable XML-Java generator? cant wsdl2java be made to generate > flexible databinding code? i think that supporting soap-enc becomes more > of headache than a real need ... > > also i can contribute code i wrote recently for ant task to do > wsdl2java-like operation but that uses XmlBeans v1 and i can tweak that > code to generate necessary stubs or skeletons needed to make AXIS2 > runtime happy to use XmlBeans generated classes from WSDL/XML Schemas > for client (Call) and server (Service?) > > >etc we want you > >to check our code and design (the design was of course discussed over the > >mailing list + during IRC chats). Please can you give me a date by which you > >will be able to complete this review so that we can then set a date for the > >release based on the review results. > > > > >Hopefully this shouldn't take longer > >than 2 weeks right? In the meantime we will try to get the documentation > >also out for your review. > > > > > i would like to look on it when M1 code development is more or less > finished and has some documentation so i can get some working examples ... > > alek > > >Regards > >Farhaan > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Srinath Perera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: 31 January 2005 11:20 > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005 > > > >Hi Glen; > >Nice that all are now back on Axis2 :) > > > >yes I too think that requests are resonable, I belive we can get them > >done in two weeks > > > >We are working on the documentation/ samples and peformance > >evaluation. We will try bit of profiling to make sure things are > >inorder. > > > >Let us all start looking closly at the code for improvements :). Can > >we have a code review at the chat? (may be we can have more than one > >IRC sessions per week for these two weeks). Can you make to the chat > >this week? > > > >Thanks > >Srinath > > > > > > > >On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:01:56 -0500, Glen Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >wrote: > > > > > >>Hi folks! > >> > >>I'm not going to +1 a release on the 11th... yet. > >> > >>Here's what I think needs to happen at a *minimum* before cutting a > >> > >> > >release: > > > > > >>1) Some documentation needs to be written (I know you guys are working > >>on this as we speak :)) and edited/checked over by at least two or three > >>folks aside from the author(s). > >> > >>2) All the code needs cleanup (such as by an IDE's "format code" > >>feature) for consistent style/spacing/etc. > >> > >>3) All spelling/capitalization errors in the code must be fixed. > >> > >>4) The existing code needs some more review by the team, and in > >>particular more review from folks outside of LSF (no offense, guys - > >>this isn't meant to make any comment on the code quality, it's just that > >>it's always good to make sure multiple viewpoints are represented) - > >>Alek, Sam, Mark, etc.... I'm very concerned that, although we know this > >>is "only a milestone release of a prototype" that some of the APIs and > >>patterns which we haven't necessarily agreed upon as yet are going to > >>start to gel and become harder to change. I also suspect we can trim > >>some of the stuff that's there for an initial release. > >> > >>So the net of this is that I'm not comfortable releasing things in their > >>current form, but that will hopefully change in the next two weeks. > >>Unfortunately, I'm going to be in Raleigh from Mon-Fri at meetings where > >>I won't have network access (damn you, IBM!), but I pledge to put some > >>time into this in the evenings and next week. > >> > >>I don't mean to be any kind of a party-pooper here - please understand > >>all these comments are in the interest of producing a seriously > >>high-quality piece of engineering, both from a design perspective and in > >>terms of the actual artifacts we produce as a team. Even for an early > >>access "release", I think it's critical that we are all on the same page > >>with respect to WHAT we're releasing, WHY we're doing so, and that we > >>all feel proud that what's there (even if limited functionally) is > >>well-architected, well-coded, and solid. If we don't have all those > >>things verified, I don't think it's worth doing a release at all yet. > >> > >>OK, whaddya think, team? A reasonable set of requests? > >> > >>Thanks, > >>--Glen > >> > >> > >>Farhaan Mohideen wrote: > >> > >> > >>>The release should be on the 11th as the 12th is a Saturday. My mistake > >>> > >>>Regards > >>>Farhaan > >>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Deepal Jayasinghe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Sent: 29 January 2005 00:23 > >>>To: [email protected] > >>>Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005 > >>> > >>>+1 , for M1 at Feb 12th > >>> > >>> > >>>Deepal > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Srinath Perera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>To: <[email protected]> > >>>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 5:59 PM > >>>Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>+1, for M1 at the Feb 12 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:15:20 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana > >>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>+1 for going ahead with an M1 on Feb. 12th. > >>>>> > >>>>>Sanjiva. > >>>>> > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: "Farhaan Mohideen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>To: <[email protected]> > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:25 PM > >>>>> > >>>>>Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Hi All > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Before Sri Lanka was affected by the tsunami we were well on course > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>for a > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>milestone release in the first week of January with only the > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>documentation > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>outstanding. I think during that period Alek, Dims and Glen said that > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>they > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>would have a look at the code out under prototype 1. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Now the team is back on track with Axis after working on the various > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>Sahana > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>applications. We would like to proceed with the milestone release and > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>would > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>appreciate some feedback from everyone whose been contributing to the > >>>>>>project. How does the 12th of Feb sound ? Since our first meeting in > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>August, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>counting the days it would show that we have spent almost 5 months to > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>get > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>this far. Without holding back further I suggest we push forward and > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>get > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>something out. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Srinath you were voted in as the Release Manager, could you send a > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>draft > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>of > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>the release plan so that all can comment. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Farhaan > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>>From: Ajith Ranabahu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>Sent: 27 January 2005 10:48 > >>>>>>To: Axis developer list > >>>>>>Subject: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005 > >>>>>> > >>>>>>The topic of todays chat was the upcoming M1. There were some concerns > >>>>>>about the site as well. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>[08:58] *** Apache Axis - SOAP WSDL WSDD > >>>>>>[08:59] *** Jaliya joined #apache-axis > >>>>>>[08:59] *** Chinthaka_ joined #apache-axis > >>>>>>[08:59] *** Chinthaka left #apache-axis : > >>>>>>[09:02] *** Deepal joined #apache-axis > >>>>>>[09:03]<Ajith> Hi all > >>>>>>[09:04]<Jaliya> Hi All > >>>>>>[09:04]<Deepal> Hi all > >>>>>>[09:05] *** farhaan joined #apache-axis > >>>>>>[09:05]<farhaan> Hi All > >>>>>>[09:07] *** farhaan sets topic for #apache-axis : Apache Axis - > >>>>>>Milestone Release > >>>>>>[09:08]<Chinthaka_> hi all > >>>>>>[09:09]<Ajith> Hey where are all the others > >>>>>>[09:09]<Ajith> ? > >>>>>>[09:10]<farhaan> is this too early/late to start ? > >>>>>>[09:10]<Chinthaka_> tsunami for all others ;) > >>>>>>[09:10]<Jaliya> It is already 9.10 am here > >>>>>>[09:12] *** lilantha joined #apache-axis > >>>>>>[09:14]<Chinthaka_> well shall we start talking about M1 ? > >>>>>>[09:14]<Deepal> good idea > >>>>>>[09:15]<Chinthaka_> anyway, any plans for the date of release ? > >>>>>>[09:16] *** chathura joined #apache-axis > >>>>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> I think its some where around 12 or 15 > >>>>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> next month > >>>>>>[09:17]<farhaan> yes we should be okay with 12th Feb > >>>>>>[09:17]<farhaan> Let's discuss what is outstanding for the release > >>>>>>[09:17]<Ajith> BTW guys what has happend to glen and all ? > >>>>>>[09:18]<Deepal> We have completed coding stuff for M1 > >>>>>>[09:18]<farhaan> as far as i know before the tsunami we were in very > >>>>>>good shape where the functionality was concerned and it was the > >>>>>>documentation that was missing > >>>>>>[09:18]<Deepal> and only documentation has to be done > >>>>>>[09:18]<Jaliya> and examples > >>>>>>[09:19]<Jaliya> I mean samples + docs > >>>>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> well I myself and Chathura started with samples > >>>>>>[09:19]<Deepal> yep > >>>>>>[09:19]<farhaan> so can we first get concurrence from all on the > >>>>>>features for M1 as a reminder atleast > >>>>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> and the user's guide > >>>>>>[09:19]<Deepal> and I stared archi guide > >>>>>>[09:22]<Ajith> myswlf and srinath did some perf tests > >>>>>>[09:22]<Ajith> and fixed some bugs as well > >>>>>>[09:22]<Chinthaka_> great > >>>>>>[09:23] *** Deepal quit FreeNode : Read error: 54 (Connection reset > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>by > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>peer) > >>>>>>[09:24] *** Chinthaka__ joined #apache-axis > >>>>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> hello > >>>>>>[09:24] *** Jaliya_ joined #apache-axis > >>>>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> helllooooooooooooo > >>>>>>[09:25]<Ajith> yeah > >>>>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> oki, i was disconnected > >>>>>>[09:25]<dims> Ajith: do we have some DOM wrapper stuff already? > >>>>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> nop > >>>>>>[09:25]<Ajith> nope > >>>>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> I don't think its required now > >>>>>>[09:25]<Ajith> not yet > >>>>>>[09:26]<dims> ok. just curious. > >>>>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> I started that sometime back > >>>>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> but stopped for the time being > >>>>>>[09:26]<Ajith> dims : god thing that you are here > >>>>>>[09:26]<Ajith> :) > >>>>>>[09:26]<dims> may not be here for long :( > >>>>>>[09:27]<dims> i got the omdiagrams from ashu... > >>>>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> ok > >>>>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> I saw the mails > >>>>>>[09:27] *** chathurah joined #apache-axis > >>>>>>[09:28]<Chinthaka__> well Dims, I want them to put in some OM docs > >>>>>>[09:28]<dims> hang on > >>>>>>[09:28] *** Deepal joined #apache-axis > >>>>>>[09:29] *** Chinthaka___ joined #apache-axis > >>>>>>[09:29] *** Chinthaka joined #apache-axis > >>>>>>[09:30]<Chinthaka___> helllo we have some connection problems here > >>>>>>[09:30] *** Jaliya__ joined #apache-axis > >>>>>>[09:30]<Deepal> ADSL ? > >>>>>>[09:31]<Chinthaka___> yeah > >>>>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> well, can all of you please review the site > >>>>>>[09:32] *** Chinthaka_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 60 (Operation > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>timed > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>out) > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>[09:32] *** Jaliya quit FreeNode : Operation timed out > >>>>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> and lets put the documents also there > >>>>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> so that we have a site by the time we release M1 > >>>>>>[09:33] *** chathura_ joined #apache-axis > >>>>>>[09:33]<Ajith> hey you guys having difficulty with the connection ? > >>>>>>[09:33]<Jaliya__> may be the software > >>>>>>[09:33]<chathura_> not the conection i suppose > >>>>>>[09:36]<farhaan> inorder to have the site up and running shouldn't the > >>>>>>project be allocated some space on the server ? > >>>>>>[09:36]<Chinthaka> yes, I think > >>>>>>[09:37]<Chinthaka> well, Dims what do u think abt this ? > >>>>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I think we are getting the space from the CVS > >>>>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I mean under ws-site > >>>>>>[09:39]<Chinthaka> the site is being currently hosted in my poor > >>>>>>apache account :( > >>>>>>[09:40]<dims>http://ws.apache.org/~dims/axis2/ > >>>>>>[09:41]<Chinthaka___> thankx dims > >>>>>>[09:41]<dims> Let's keep the site off-line till we release m1. we can > >>>>>>announce the site url with the m1 announcement. > >>>>>>[09:41]<farhaan> is that a permanent location for the axis2 site ? > >>>>>>[09:41]<dims> it's the same apache server instance service both :) > >>>>>>[09:42]<Chinthaka___> farhaan, it has the om images I requested > >>>>>>[09:42]<dims> farhaan: no these are the images > >>>>>>[09:42]<dims> Chinthaka: can you please make a copy before i lose it > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>again > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>:) > >>>>>>[09:42] *** chathura quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>host) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>[09:43]<Chinthaka___> already done :) > >>>>>>[09:44]<Chinthaka___> so dims, then lets keep the axis 2 site, where > >>>>>>it is now and host it when we release M1 > >>>>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> so shall we try to make those docs available by > >>>>>>next week ? > >>>>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> and till then others can review > >>>>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> DIms, what are the docs we require ? > >>>>>>[09:46]<Chinthaka___> we are preparing archi guide and user's guide > >>>>>>which includes installation guide and samples > >>>>>>[09:47] *** Chinthaka__ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>host) > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>[09:48] *** Jaliya_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>host) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>[09:48]<farhaan> dims:so i guess you would allocate some space for the > >>>>>>site atleast before the 10th , if we are to make the release on the > >>>>>>12th > >>>>>>[09:48]<dims> Chintaka: sounds good. > >>>>>>[09:48]<dims> farhaan: consider it already allocated :) > >>>>>>[09:48] *** chathurah quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>host) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>[09:49]<farhaan> dims: okay :) we are well on course then > >>>>>>[09:49]<farhaan> by the way > >>>>>>[09:50]<farhaan> do you foresee any problems with a M1 release on the > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>12th, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>[09:52]<dims> am yet to review code etc... > >>>>>>[09:52]<dims> need a few days (maybe weekend) > >>>>>>[09:52]<dims> do we know who's our competition? > >>>>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sistinet? > >>>>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> ActiveSOAP > >>>>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sorry, systinet? > >>>>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> and Sanjiva was referring to some more > >>>>>>[09:55] *** Deepal quit FreeNode : "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, > >>>>>>Easier. http://miranda-im.org"; > >>>>>>[10:01]<farhaan> sanjiva was very particular on getting people like > >>>>>>loghan (i think that was the name) who is implementing his own engine > >>>>>>interested in this and hence the need to produce something fast > >>>>>>[10:02] *** Chinthaka___ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla > >>>>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]" > >>>>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> seems like time is up > >>>>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> can some one please post the log > >>>>>>[10:04]<Chinthaka> as I don't have the whole thing > >>>>>>[10:04]<Jaliya__> Bye All > >>>>>>[10:04] *** Jaliya__ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla > >>>>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]" > >>>>>>[10:06]<farhaan> I know this was not too productive, but let's discuss > >>>>>>the M1 stuff in detail over the mailing list, bye now > >>>>>>[10:06] *** farhaan left #apache-axis : > >>>>>>[10:08]<chathura_> can somone post the chat(ppl at sliit havent got > >>>>>>the complete chat) > >>>>>>[10:10] *** lilantha left #apache-axis : > >>>>>>[10:11] *** chathura_ left #apache-axis : > >>>>>> > >>>>>>-- > >>>>>>Ajith Ranabahu > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > The best way to predict the future is to invent it - Alan Kay > > -- Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
