Sanjiva, A VOTE is a VOTE :) let's please live with it.
thanks, dims On 12/30/05, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 09:39 +0100, Werner Dittmann wrote: > > [X] - Don't switch on sessions by default > > > > Well, I'm not an Axis developer, but makeing web services > > "statefull" (session aware) by default is IMO not a good idea. > > If some web services need "session" it should be done deliberatly > > because the system must take care of the session data. > > > > Just think about scaleability (load sharing) of webservices on > > different servers using IP load balancers. If a service > > needs some state (session data) this state must be replicated > > to all servers by some means, otherwise you can't perform > > load sharing. Such a thing has to be designed, your overall > > solution must be aware of it etc etc. > > Werner, you've got it all backwards .. the issue is on the client side, > not on the server. On the server if the service is session scoped then > you *have to* create service contexts and store them against the cookie > ID until they time out. *None* of the points you made apply to the > situation at hand! > > The question Dims asked is about what the default should be for clients. > I disagree with the apparently popular choice of no sessions because if > a service has multiple operations then in most cases the operations have > some relationships between them. The question really amounts to asking > how often do people have session scoped services vs. application scoped > services. If they are application scoped then basically the cookie stuff > makes no difference: either the service is totally stateless and it > ignores all context or its truly stateful and remembers something from > every request. > > IMO the natural behavior should be to maintain sessions by default. > That's what even Apache SOAP did back many years ago. > > I was out of town for a few days so was not able to reply in a timely > manner to convince more voters :(. Can we have a re-vote based on the > information that Werner's explanation does not apply at all and at least > 3 people voted based on that? > > Sanjiva. > > > -- Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/
