Hi Robert, Thanks for the help you offered on documentation and Spring.
BTW, I don't think a feature should be supported in Axis2 simply its supported in Axis 1.x or XFire. Except for that part I agree with your mail. Thanks, Chinthaka robert lazarski wrote: > "Any ideas how we can bundle all these parts and any volunteers for > Spring implementation ?" > > Got it started, I know spring well, and there some deeper issues that > need to be handled that for someone who doesn't know spring, will > probably miss. The MessageReciever to support spring is easy - it just > requires that you know what you're doing. I'm basing this work off of > paul fremantle's he posted last july, though he was messing with the > classloader and I think that can and should be avoided. It just so > happens I've been really busy on something else these last few days, but > that'll pass any day now and I should be ready for a commit defintely by > the end of the week. I participate on the spring lists and I should be > able to get some feedback. > > Oh and search the list for axis2 and spring - axis 1.x already supports > spring. AXIS2-427 got marked as won't fix - asking for a jax-rpc class > to use spring. I replied about two weeks ago to a question here: > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=axis-user&m=114616468925896&w=2 > <http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=axis-user&m=114616468925896&w=2> > > There are other posts on the list. I personally already use spring in > axis2 via a BeanFactory, but too much for an average spring user to confgi > > XFIre supports spring, Axis 1.x support it, and axis2 shoud too. I'm not > a spring zealot, but I do believe its easy enough to support it. > > Bottom line is I've started the spring work, and I'm +1 on putting the > spring.jar and perhaps some of the databinding jars outside the std distro. > > BTW, I know there are other priorities such as documenting a POJO, and > since I'm a native english speaker I can help document it once I got a > few cycles - maybe this weekend. > > Robert > http://www.braziloutsource.com/ > > On 5/10/06, *Eran Chinthaka* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > Hi, > > I also agree with Tom. I do not want to have Spring in the core or in > any core parts. > > BUT, even though you say it < 1%, I'd say its more than 70% at least > here in Germany. I met lot of people here who are asking for Spring > support, even though they are silent in mailing list. Spring, for some > reason, is hot here. > > I even worry about bundling most of the data binding jars with our war > dist. Don't u all complain about it. Jaxme itself has four jars which > amounts to 1MB. I think we need to have a policy on data binding > frameworks as well. > > So this leads us to think about how we can release a core part and let > people extend it to be used with Spring or to let them use a different > db framework that we support. > > Any ideas how we can bundle all these parts and any volunteers for > Spring implementation ? > > -- Chinthaka > > > > Tom Jordahl wrote: > > "I know it when I see it" β and Spring is over the line. J > > > > > > > > How many Axis2 users will use Spring? Hard to say, but I am > betting that > > <1% of users are using it right now. > > > > > > > > I am happy to have 'extra' code in axis2.jar that supports lots of > other > > technologies. That isn't a steep price to pay. But if I am using the > > 'basics' β SOAP processing, the Axis Data Binding, WSDL generation, > > *maybe* WS-Addressing β I should have a small list of jars that I > need > > to run (whether the list is small right now is probably another > discussion). > > > > > > > > Doesn't that sound right? > > > > > > > > P.S. I am only dimly aware of Spring, I don't even know what it > really > > does without a Google search, so I have nothing against Spring itself. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Tom Jordahl > > > > Adobe ColdFusion Team > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > *From:* robert lazarski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:16 PM > > *To:* axis-dev@ws.apache.org <mailto:axis-dev@ws.apache.org> > > *Subject:* Re: [axis2] Spring Support > > > > > > > > Sure, I understand - that's why I proposed bringing back the > extensions > > directory. The problem is, however, where do you draw the line? > > > > Robert > > http://www.braziloutsource.com/ > > > > On 5/9/06, *Tom Jordahl* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: > > > > I don't use Spring, so don't make me carry the spring jar file around > > with Axis2 when I don't use itβ¦ > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Tom Jordahl > > > > Adobe ColdFusion Team > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > *From:* Rajith Attapattu [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>] > > *Sent:* Monday, May 08, 2006 11:48 AM > > *To:* axis-dev@ws.apache.org <mailto:axis-dev@ws.apache.org> > <mailto:axis-dev@ws.apache.org <mailto:axis-dev@ws.apache.org>> > > *Subject:* Re: [axis2] Spring Support > > > > > > > > Robert, > > > > Ok, good then as a starting point we can use your code base as you > have > > already done some work on pauls stuff. > > Yes the 2MB depency does concerns me as well. But it looks like a > lot of > > developers are using spring so it might not be that much of an issue > > considering the fanfare we see out there for spring. > > > > How about pulling put the common code and refactoring the Message > > Receivers? or you want to wait till u check in the stuff and then look > > at it? > > > > I am not sure about Data binding as well and hopefuly somebody > will fill > > in the gap here. > > > > Regards, > > > > Rajith > > > > On 5/8/06, *robert lazarski* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: > > > > I've been using Spring with axis2 since .92, although in a way not > > everybody seems to like. > > > > I'm working a lot on adding Spring support via a Message Reciever, > but > > wanted to wait till post 1.0 . . I've mostly got it working. I'm > basing > > this work of of paul's work he did last july though some things cleary > > won't work today as they were coded back then. I'm hoping to have > > something ready to commit this week, of course after discussions > on the > > list. I still need to do the junit tests and work out how spring does > > annotations. > > > > This is good time to lay out the issues: > > > > 1) Spring is licensed under apache 2.0 . > > 2) Its yet another dependancy, the main spring.jar being about 2 megs. > > 3) We had an extensions directory, and this may be a good time to > bring > > it back. > > 4) I'm unsure how to integrate a spring message reciever with > > databinding. Databinding at least for me is a critical factor. > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > On 5/8/06, *Rajith Attapattu* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: > > > > Dims, > > > > Thats true, we cannot and should not try to satisfy everybody. > > Most people are looking for a magic wand that will create there code > > with minimum effort as possible. > > > > Reading the thread on TSS I was sad to see that most people have > missed > > the boat about Web Services. > > > > These people expect nothing but to expose their **objects** as Web > > Services using some framework with minimum effort as possible. > > Thats as far as they are willing to go with Web Services. > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rajith > > > > > > > > On 5/8/06, *Davanum Srinivas* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: > > > > Sure. > > > > - Beware of people with hidden agendas. You can never please everyone. > > - Once you meet the objective criteria (say "add spring support"), > you > > will hear either ("it's not easy" or "it's complicated" in other words > > "It does not meet my unspecified standards that are in my > > head"-kind-of subjective criteria. > > > > thanks, > > dims > > > > On 5/8/06, Rajith Attapattu < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Looking at the thread on TSS, it looks like some people are hell > bent on > >> having spring support. > >> > >> Paul already has some code (sandbox) attached to the jira AXIS2-272 > >> I looked at them and it does provide a nice way of exposing > spring beans as > >> Web Services via a MessageReceiver > >> > >> I agree with Paul that there is some common code that could be > refactored > >> out in the message reciver classes. > >> > >> Shall we work on this code base and provide the support these > people are > >> asking for?? > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Rajith > >> > > > > > > -- > > Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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