I think developers are already using this model, and it has become quite popular. Due to the popularity and rising use, a JSR is in the works, and thus a standards based implementation of REST is becoming possible. I agree with your statement that any implementation of REST that is pursued should be free from prior models that were more SOAP-based. Maybe this means that any work done here should be in its own module as to promote a clean separation of the REST implementation from existing Axis2 work.
Wesley Mesquita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Do you mean to say that since REST request data is sent in pure XML that we can use well-known existing XML technologies like STAX, SAX, and DOM?' I thought this. I agree that is a good initiative, make the WS development free of underlying technologies, but this means changing the model that we work (and think) today, is there any "plan" to make this popular? That is, how to make developers adopt RESTful model? On Dec 10, 2007 1:08 AM, Dustin Amrhein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You are correct in saying that REST web services are a departure from the SOAP-centric web services that the Apache Axis architecture is built to support. What exactly do you mean by lower-level APIs in place of SOAP though? Do you mean to say that since REST request data is sent in pure XML that we can use well-known existing XML technologies like STAX, SAX, and DOM? Or, are you referring to something else? Thanks, Dustin Amrhein Web Services Development, IBM Wesley Mesquita <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: So, as I understood, REST goes in a different way from that we are dealing with WS today in the sense that we wouldn´t deppend of technologies like SOAP, and explore Java lower level APIs, is this right? On Dec 7, 2007 12:45 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wesley, Here's the page for the JSR. http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=311 As Sanjiva mentioned, the JSR is still in progress so there's potential for what you see today to be different by the time the spec is complete. Take a look at the JSR and I guess just start asking questions. Before diving into that JSR though, I would Google around and become familiar with the concepts of REST. That will help put some of the JSR lingo into context. Another thing you could do to get familiar with the concept is to build a REST service/client using the existing Axis2 APIs. Please ask away if you have any questions. Cheers, -Nick "Wesley Mesquita" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Wesley Mesquita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/06/2007 03:25 PM Please respond to axis-dev@ws.apache.org To axis-dev@ws.apache.org cc Subject Re: Axis2 architecture documentation Interesting, I know a little bit of the concepts of REST arch, but I´ve never worked with JSR. If you can tell me where to start I can learn more about this, and I´ll try to do something in the implementation. Wesley. On Dec 6, 2007 11:54 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about implementing JSR-311? That's the new REST annotations JSR. Its a new feature, so its relatively easy .. but u'll need the deployment architecture etc.. But its a fun project and will be useful when done (the JSR is still in progress). Sanjiva. Wesley Mesquita wrote: > > > On Dec 6, 2007 7:31 AM, David Illsley < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > Hi Wesley, It's great to have someone interested in working on Axis2. > Welcome. I guess I'd suggest you try to 'scratch an itch'. You mention > you've been using Axis2.... is there anything that was really hard to > do? > > > Well, there some people in my lab ( www.lis.ic.unicamp.br > <http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br >) that have used Axis 1.x in their works > (I know tree MScs that used) , and during the last three months I have > tried to use Axis2 to create Web Services from java classes. I explored > better the POJO method and I did some scripts to automatize the aar > packages creation. My objective is allow the users to send their classes > and the service will be deployed in Axis2 environment. I made just > simple tests, but I think I´ll have problems in more complex classes > (using serialization, attachments and so on). But my new challenge is to > find an easy way to create clients. I am exploring the methods described > in the site but I still didn´t find this "easy way." > > Anything you found you couldn't do that you'd like to be able to > > do? > David > > > I was able (in a hard or simple way) to do everything I needed. But, > like in almost all projects I´ll find something that I can´t do, but, > for now, I don´t know what is this :). > > thanks, > > Wesley > > > On Dec 5, 2007 2:56 PM, Wesley Mesquita < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > I have never worked in a Open Source project, so I don't know how > to get > > really involved just seeing the JIRA's messages, because I still > dont have a > > good view of the areas that these problems are associated. For > now, I would > > like to get simple tasks (in a small or big "thing"). The best > would be if > > someone can tell me an area to get involved (study documentation, > code) and > > so, try to develop sometrhing. > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > On Dec 5, 2007 12:44 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana > < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > > > > Wesley Mesquita wrote: > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > > > I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at University, and > will be very > > > > useful the documentation about the architecture of Axis2. I > looked at > > > > the site and I didn't found anything like this. > > > > > > > > PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or anything > specific that you > > > > (the developers team) want people to work ? I am looking for > a open > > > > source project to work in my summer vacation. > > > > > > There's a bunch of areas that you can work on! Do you feel like > doing a > > > small thing or something "large"? The best way is to look at > some of the > > > pending JIRAs and tackle some small things to get started on. > > > > > > If you want specific big ideas holler again and I'll come up > with some > > items! > > > > > > Sanjiva. > > > -- > > > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. > > > Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; > http://www.opensource.lk/ > > > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/ > > > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/ > > > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; > http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/ > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Wesley Mesquita > > LIS/IC - UNICAMP > > [skype: wesley.mesquita] > > > > -- > David Illsley - IBM Web Services Development > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > -- > Wesley Mesquita > LIS/IC - UNICAMP > [skype: wesley.mesquita] -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/ Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/ Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Wesley Mesquita LIS/IC - UNICAMP [skype: wesley.mesquita] -- Wesley Mesquita LIS/IC - UNICAMP [skype: wesley.mesquita] --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! 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