On Dec 14, 2007 4:20 PM, Eran Chinthaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Wesley, > > One note here. Never ask what REST is and try to compare that with WS or > SOAP in particular. 100 people will come up with 100 different ideas > about it. Pure REST is still in the philosophical stage and everyone > thinks on their own. Anyway I have no intention to get in to the REST war. >
Yesterday I was talking with a friend (a phd student from my lab) and he has the same opinion. > If you are getting in to a new field and trying to understand new > domain, it will be bit harder for you to understand what it means. So > try to follow some guidelines Nick and Sanjiva proposed, like reading > the JSR and also googling. I hope you will find articles on Axis2 + Rest > + WSDL 2.0 at least. Now I am doing this. As you said it is a new field for me, and I trying to understand this better. > > > Another way to help us is, read our docs and see what is missing, what > is complex and what is still not working. All the devs here have seen > those docs thousand times or do not bother to look at them coz all of > these people here total geeks. So we really want different and fresh > perspectives on our code. > Perhaps you can start answering vast amount of questions in axis-user > list. Since you are a CS student, you have a better knowledge reading > code than some of the users. You can help answering those people. > Look at our JIRA, you might see some low hanging issues which you can > fix easily. Especially if there are issues with test cases, run them, > identify the problem and debug to see where the problem is and try to > fix it. > For now I am trying to to get o better view of Axis2 structure before send any opinion or suggestion. So, when I get better I´ll can give my opinion and contribute to the project. > > Those methods are how you can help us and also will earn you the way to > get the prestigious committership in Apache Web services project which > will come handy on your CV. Certainly! > > > Good luck. > > Chinthaka > > > Wesley Mesquita wrote: > > "Do you mean to say that since REST request data is sent in pure XML > > that we can use well-known existing XML technologies like STAX, SAX, and > > DOM?' > > > > I thought this. > > > > I agree that is a good initiative, make the WS development free of > > underlying technologies, but this means changing the model that we work > > (and think) today, is there any "plan" to make this popular? That is, > > how to make developers adopt RESTful model? > > > > On Dec 10, 2007 1:08 AM, Dustin Amrhein <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > > You are correct in saying that REST web services are a departure > > from the SOAP-centric web services that the Apache Axis architecture > > is built to support. What exactly do you mean by lower-level APIs in > > place of SOAP though? Do you mean to say that since REST request > > data is sent in pure XML that we can use well-known existing XML > > technologies like STAX, SAX, and DOM? Or, are you referring to > > something else? > > > > Thanks, > > Dustin Amrhein > > Web Services Development, IBM > > > > > > > > */Wesley Mesquita <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>/* wrote: > > > > So, as I understood, REST goes in a different way from that we > > are dealing with WS today in the sense that we wouldn´t deppend > > of technologies like SOAP, and explore Java lower level APIs, is > > this right? > > > > On Dec 7, 2007 12:45 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > > Wesley, > > > > Here's the page for the JSR. > http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=311 > > > > As Sanjiva mentioned, the JSR is still in progress so > > there's potential for what you see today to be different by > > the time the spec is complete. Take a look at the JSR and I > > guess just start asking questions. > > > > Before diving into that JSR though, I would Google around > > and become familiar with the concepts of REST. That will > > help put some of the JSR lingo into context. Another thing > > you could do to get familiar with the concept is to build a > > REST service/client using the existing Axis2 APIs. > > > > Please ask away if you have any questions. > > > > Cheers, > > > > -Nick > > > > > > Inactive hide details for "Wesley Mesquita" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Wesley Mesquita" < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > > > > *"Wesley Mesquita" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>* > > 12/06/2007 03:25 PM > > Please respond to > > axis-dev@ws.apache.org > > <mailto:axis-dev@ws.apache.org> > > > > > > > > To > > > > axis-dev@ws.apache.org <mailto:axis-dev@ws.apache.org> > > > > cc > > > > > > Subject > > > > Re: Axis2 architecture documentation > > > > > > > > > > Interesting, I know a little bit of the concepts of REST > > arch, but I´ve never worked with JSR. If you can tell me > > where to start I can learn more about this, and I´ll try to > > do something in the implementation. > > > > Wesley. > > > > On Dec 6, 2007 11:54 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > wrote: > > > > How about implementing JSR-311? That's the new REST > > annotations JSR. > > > > Its a new feature, so its relatively easy .. but u'll > > need the deployment > > architecture etc.. But its a fun project and will be > > useful when done (the > > JSR is still in progress). > > > > Sanjiva. > > > > Wesley Mesquita wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Dec 6, 2007 7:31 AM, David Illsley < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ <mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Wesley, It's great to have someone interested in > > working on Axis2. > > > Welcome. I guess I'd suggest you try to 'scratch an > > itch'. You mention > > > you've been using Axis2.... is there anything that > > was really hard to > > > do? > > > > > > > > > Well, there some people in my lab ( > > _www.lis.ic.unicamp.br_ <http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br/ > > > > > <_http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br _ > > <http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br/>>) that have used Axis > > 1.x in their works > > > (I know tree MScs that used) , and during the last > > three months I have > > > tried to use Axis2 to create Web Services from java > > classes. I explored > > > better the POJO method and I did some scripts to > > automatize the aar > > > packages creation. My objective is allow the users > > to send their classes > > > and the service will be deployed in Axis2 > > environment. I made just > > > simple tests, but I think I´ll have problems in > > more complex classes > > > (using serialization, attachments and so on). But > > my new challenge is to > > > find an easy way to create clients. I am exploring > > the methods described > > > in the site but I still didn´t find this "easy > way." > > > > > > Anything you found you couldn't do that you'd like > > to be able to > > > > > > do? > > > David > > > > > > > > > I was able (in a hard or simple way) to do > > everything I needed. But, > > > like in almost all projects I´ll find something > > that I can´t do, but, > > > for now, I don´t know what is this :). > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > Wesley > > > > > > > > > On Dec 5, 2007 2:56 PM, Wesley Mesquita < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: > > > > I have never worked in a Open Source project, so > > I don't know how > > > to get > > > > really involved just seeing the JIRA's messages, > > because I still > > > dont have a > > > > good view of the areas that these problems are > > associated. For > > > now, I would > > > > like to get simple tasks (in a small or big > > "thing"). The best > > > would be if > > > > someone can tell me an area to get involved > > (study documentation, > > > code) and > > > > so, try to develop sometrhing. > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 5, 2007 12:44 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana > > > < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto: _ > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Wesley Mesquita wrote: > > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at > > University, and > > > will be very > > > > > > useful the documentation about the > > architecture of Axis2. I > > > looked at > > > > > > the site and I didn't found anything like > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or > > anything > > > specific that you > > > > > > (the developers team) want people to work ? I > > am looking for > > > a open > > > > > > source project to work in my summer vacation. > > > > > > > > > > There's a bunch of areas that you can work on! > > Do you feel like > > > doing a > > > > > small thing or something "large"? The best way > > is to look at > > > some of the > > > > > pending JIRAs and tackle some small things to > > get started on. > > > > > > > > > > If you want specific big ideas holler again and > > I'll come up > > > with some > > > > items! > > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva. > > > > > -- > > > > > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. > > > > > Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; > > > _http://www.opensource.lk/_ > > > > > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; > > _http://www.wso2.com/ _ <http://www.wso2.com/> > > > > > Member; Apache Software Foundation; > > _http://www.apache.org/_ > > > > > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; > > > _http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/_ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Wesley Mesquita > > > > LIS/IC - UNICAMP > > > > [skype: wesley.mesquita] > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > David Illsley - IBM Web Services Development > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: _ > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Wesley Mesquita > > > LIS/IC - UNICAMP > > > [skype: wesley.mesquita] > > > > -- > > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. > > Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; > > _http://www.opensource.lk/_ > > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; _ > > http://www.wso2.com/_ > > Member; Apache Software Foundation; > > _http://www.apache.org/_ > > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; > > _http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/_ > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Wesley Mesquita > > LIS/IC - UNICAMP > > [skype: wesley.mesquita] > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Wesley Mesquita > > LIS/IC - UNICAMP > > [skype: wesley.mesquita] > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! 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