Kurt, Looking at your postings, i don't see much from you in terms of engaging the user or developer community to ask for help. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=axis-dev&w=2&r=1&s=olsen&q=b http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=axis-user&w=2&r=1&s=olsen&q=b
Your specific email to Tom (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=axis-dev&m=112801670512125&w=2)...i have no clue how to help. i did reply back to a prev mail on that thread (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=axis-dev&m=112692662128194&w=2) If you have a problem with Macromedia or eBay folks, We can't really help. If you have a problem with latest releases of Axis, we can help if you add JIRA bugs (and chase us!) on the axis-dev@ list. If you need production/development support, there are avenues for that as well. Am sorry you had a bad experience, thanks for the feedback. -- dims On 10/27/05, Kurt Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Folks, I hate to say it but I had to ditch axis. Way too difficult. And we > won't be using it in the future. > > > > Our application has approx 30 vendors we communicate with using SOAP. > > Approx 25 of them are implemented by simply creating strings and firing them > off, then parsing out the reply. > > Primitive but fairly easy to do. > > > > The other 5 used axis. At the moment we're using the ColdFusion server. When > we upgraded to java 5 and coldfusion mx7 our axis based connectors broke. > > It took approximately 2 weeks to diagnose and 'solve' the problem. Axis used > commons-logging, and commons-logging broke. That required fairly > > major surgery to the coldfusion classpath. Pieces of commons-logging we're > coming in off of different classloaders. > > > > So technically speaking, commons-logging broke - not axis but…..since axis > brought the flaw to life, and has given us grief (probably the CF > integration) in the past, it is axis that got the bad reputation due to the > fact that it was at the top of the food chain. The two weeks solving this > problem wasn't totally wasted because it exposed a fairly large flaw in the > overall architecture. > > > > After getting the existing connectors to work again, I had to turn my > attention to the next connector in the pipeline – eBay via Soap…. > > Only one problem – eBay's sdk is written against java 1.4 and axis 1.1 – > while we upgraded to java 5 and axis 1.2 > > After another week of trying various 'workarounds' etc I was forced to give > up and will have to communicate with eBay using the "create strings" > technique. > > > > Bottom line is that the overall cost of the 'SOAP' system and it's co-horts > in crime is un-managable given our quarterly release cycle. > > I'm disappointed that after all that effor to modernize – the goal really > wasn't accomplished. > > > > I fully understand the various issues involved, most of which aren't really > axis's fault but – any way I slice it this entire exercise felt exactly like > trying to use the J2EE 1.3/1.4 ejb specifications. Big, confusing, hard to > use etc…..And I predict will eventually be abandoned (or at least buried > beneath a convienence API). > > > > This is just one co's experience of course but I submit to you that as you > continue your development you might want to consider the overall 'cost' that > SOAP and it's tools are exacting on the community. This simply has to get > easier because as it stands both the other developers (who watched over my > shoulder so to speak) and myself have simply given up on an 'easy' tool fix. > Our experience is that SOAP is a diaster and costing virtually everyone in > corporate programming a lot of money and lost sleep…. > > > > Thanks for listening, and please remember that I'm taking the time to write > this not to complain (well, maybe a little) but to provide feedback from the > field. > > > > Respectfully, > > Kurt Olsen > > > > > > -- Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/
