Hi Sam,
(Did we ever talk about if your Coelho's were from Terceira?) Thanks for the name info.....I think if I were younger I'd just do it the same way that you did....just assume it and use it.....however, I'm afraid at this age with property, credit and social security just around the corner that I'd better have it done professionally unless I could use it simultaneously for certain things.....I like having the name that several grandmothers used with the "Felizarda de Castro"..... Take care, Nancy....Ana From: sam...@surewest.net Subject: RE: Res: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: "de" or "da" To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:20:22 -0800 Ana; Just to let you know my experience, I was born Gloria Patricia Jean Coelho in CA. I lived in NYC for a few years and while there, I was once introduced as "Sam" (long story). Anyway, I decided "Sam" fit my personality as I grew up[ a tomboy on a ranch, and so, I kept the name. This was 40 years ago. I subsequently had my driver's license, social security card and my passport changed to Gloria Sam Koester (Koester being my married surname). I go by Sam and sign my name as Sam. It is legal, in CA anyway, to change your name in this way as long as you are not doing it to defraud anyone. Just my two cents worth, Sam in CA :-) ---- Original message ---- Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:12:22 -0600 From: nancy jean baptiste <fishsongf...@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: Res: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: "de" or "da" To: azores group <azores@googlegroups.com> Thanks all for the responses........it helped clarify for me which to use. Now, the deed is done and the paintings are at the printers for notecards and my final name based on your feedback feels right! Kind regards, Ana Felizarda de Castro Baptista (I feel like one of my ancestors making a name change.....so easy for them to do and yet my lawyer wants $500.00.....oh for the good old days when all you had to do was say "my name is such and such" and so it was! > Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:51:27 -0800 > Subject: Re: Res: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: "de" or "da" > From: thomas.deco...@usmc.mil > To: azores@googlegroups.com > > Or in my case, it was da Costa Vasconcellos in the Azores. In Hawaii, > it became De Costa. Someone had once told me that in medieval times > that "de" meant from royalty, "do" from the church, "da" was a > peasant, and "di" I forgot... anyway, I have never read that anywhere > else........ > > On Feb 24, 8:11 am, George Pacheco <bretanha1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Nancy! > > To anwswer your question "or should it be "de" Castro." it is written > > as de Castro. > > > > George > > > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:07 PM, nancy jean baptiste > > > > > > > > > > > > <fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Sorry group....thought this was to Joao but I goofed! > > > Nancy > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: fishsongf...@hotmail.com > > > To: azores@googlegroups.com > > > Subject: RE: Res: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: "de" or "da" > > > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:04:28 -0600 > > > > > Greetings Joao, > > > > > I wonder if you could clarify something for me? I'd like to return to my > > > Portuguese name since Baptiste was never our real name and we've had it > > > since 1893. I've begun painting again and my work is Azorean scenes....I'd > > > like to sign with my Portuguese name......I want to take my grandmothers > > > name, several of them used Felizarda "da" Castro and I'm wondering if it's > > > correct or should it be "de" Castro. > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > Nancy Jean Baptiste..../...Anna Felizarda da Castro Baptista > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:43:52 -0700 > > > From: josim...@yahoo.com.br > > > Subject: Res: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: "de" or "da" > > > To: Azores@googlegroups.com > > > > > Yes, it's a devotional name. > > > Maria do Corpo de Deus de Costa > > > Maria do Corpo de Deus = Mary of the Body of God > > > de Costa = the "real" family surname > > > > > Portuguese "de" = Spanish, French "de" = Dutch "van" = German "von" > > > > > Devotional surnames were not originally family surnames, but later they > > > can > > > become one. > > > > > Maria de Sao Jose = Mary of Saint Joseph > > > Maria do Nascimento = Mary of the Birth (of Jesus) > > > Maria da Conceicao = Mary of the Conception > > > Maria da Luz = Mary of the Light (after Our Lady of the Light) > > > > > Along XVIIIth Century, almost all women have devotional instead of > > > familiar > > > surnames. You will find lots and lots of Maria de Jesus, Maria da > > > Conceicao, > > > Maria do Rosario, Maria de Sao Pedro, Maria da Piedade, etc. Sometimes > > > these > > > surnames refered to birth's date saints: children born or baptized near > > > Christmas could be named "do Nascimento"; near Saint Joseph's day, "de Sao > > > Jose", etc., but it's not a rigid rule. Combined with family surnames: > > > Maria > > > da Luz Pereira or Maria Pereira da Luz. Sometimes these combos go on and > > > become a family name: "Pereira das Neves", "Pereira da Luz", "Silveira do > > > Nascimento". Other devotional surnames came from saints' epithets, like > > > Joao > > > Batista (John the Baptizer), Joao Evangelista (John the Evangelist), > > > Francisco Xavier, Francisco de Assis, applied to a single person, who > > > passed > > > to its descendants. In Vila do Topo, there was a Joao Batista de Santana > > > who > > > become the origin of a vast family Batista. > > > > > JS Lopes > > > ________________________________ > > > De: carmen furtado <carmen_furt...@yahoo.com> > > > Para: Azores@googlegroups.com > > > Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 13 de Abril de 2009 13:32:26 > > > Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: "de" or "da" > > > > > I have a "Maria do Corpo do Deus deCosta" on my family tree - are the two > > > 'dos' correct? Thanks. Carmen > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Marek Delacroix <marekdelacr...@yahoo.com> > > > To: Azores@googlegroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 2:19:18 AM > > > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: "de" or "da" > > > > > Thank you Cheri...Our family name is Da Avila Brazil...but I have seen it > > > De > > > Avila Brazil...so it could be either and be right? Thank you > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> > > > To: Azores@googlegroups.com > > > Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 5:41:30 PM > > > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: "de" or "da" > > > > > "de" means of. > > > "da" is a contraction for "of the" is is used with feminine words. > > > "do" is a contraction of "of the" and is used with masculine words. > > > > > These are literal translations, so it doesn't always make sense with > > > surnames. They are just prefixes. > > > > > -- > > > Cheri Mello > > > Listowner, Azores-Gen > > > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R. das Tainhas, > > > Achada > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! + Buscados: Top 10 - > > > Celebridades - Música - Esportes > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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