I think names like DaCosta was created under influence of Dutch names like
DeSchepper (De Schepper), or Italian (DeMatteis for De Matteis; DiMaggio for Di
Maggio). As in English is not usual prepositions in surnames; foreign-origin
families who want to keep their original form needs to adapt them to a single
name, combining preposition+name.
A different development ocurred in Spanish surnames of Portuguese origin (too
common in Uruguay or Argentina), with a wrong treatment of the preposition,
examples:
Portuguese da Costa > Spanish de Acosta
da Rosa = de Arrosa
da Cunha = de Acuña.
JS Lopes
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De: Carlos Bertemes <bremen...@yahoo.com.br>
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Enviadas: Sexta-feira, 26 de Fevereiro de 2010 21:08:34
Assunto: Re: Res: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: "de" or "da"
....... writes Da Costa because they were taught to capitalize last names ......
although "DA, DE, DO" is used in surnames, its not a surname, its just a
preposition, thats why we dont capitalize these prepositions except when it
starts a new sentence right after a periode, or when it is the first word on a
paragraph.
I just dont understand why in america they write DaCosta, instead of da Costa
You are right, DI is italian
I appreciated your explanation, even I couldn't have explained it so correctly
Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - Long Island/NY-USA
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--- Em sex, 26/2/10, Lionel Holmes <lionelholme...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>De: Lionel Holmes <lionelholme...@gmail.com>
>Assunto: Re: Res: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: "de" or "da"
>Para: azores@googlegroups.com
>Data: Sexta-feira, 26 de Fevereiro de 2010, 18:42
>
>
>Good explanation!
>
>
>On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>As a kid, I was told something about De vs de being royalty. That's not the
>way Portuguese grammar works.
>>
>>"de" basically means "of."
>>"da" would be the equivalent of the English contraction "of the" (with the
>>next word ending in "a" signifying feminine). "da musica" (of the music -
>>music ends in "a" so you use da).
>>"do" would be the equivalent of the English contraction "of the" (with the
>>next word ending in "o" signifying masculine). "do carro" (of the car - car
>>ends in "o" so you use do).
>>
>>d' is one of those things where you put the apostrophe when you're missing a
>>letter. In English, that would be in words such as "don't." The d' in
>>Portuguese is either de da or do, depending on the next word.
>>
>>"di" I think is Italian. I've had a couple of Italian kids in my class and I
>>seem to
>> remember their names being Di Whatever.
>>
>>de, da, do in Portuguese isn't capitalized. We don't capitalize prepositions
>>in English and they don't seem to do it in Portuguese. However, when someone
>>who is not born in the U.S. (and possibly Canada) comes into the new country
>>and says that their last name is "da Costa" the person (who was schooled
>>English to capital last names) writes Da Costa because they were taught to
>>capitalize last names.
>>
>>I don't have my Portuguese grammar books handy, so I'm remembering this off
>>the top of my head. The native speakers will be able to correct what I'm not
>>remembering correctly.
>>
>>Cheri Mello
>>Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
>>Achada
>>
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