Hi Tony, That will be fine for you to contact me at my email address Best Wishes Chris
From: Tony Matthews <tony...@xtra.co.nz> >To: azores@googlegroups.com >Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2012 4:49 PM >Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francis Joseph > >Thanks Chris Murray for the offer of help. Can I contact you privately at some >point after I've got an answer to my latest search! It's very much like >looking for a needle in a haystack. >On the health side of things we must all remember to get off of our chairs and >have a walk around occasionally to ward off DVT's! It's so easy to sit in >front of our computers for hours on end chasing leads on our ancestors. >Cheers, Tony--- On Mon, 21/5/12, chris murray <cmurra...@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > >>From: chris murray <cmurra...@yahoo.com.au> >>Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francis Joseph >>To: "azores@googlegroups.com" <azores@googlegroups.com> >>Date: Monday, 21, May, 2012, 11:12 PM >> >> >> >> >>Hi Tony, I am in Australia and have a ggg grandfather that came here from >>the Azores. At my local library i have access to the Victorian BDM records >>and would be happy to research your family connections . Let me know if i can >>help , please send me as much detail as you can on the names and approximate >>dates and if possible the town where they might have lived. I can also >>access cemetery files. All at no cost. Will be pleased to help. Maria Lima >>and i got so excited last year as we thought that both our Azores relations >>came to Australia on the ship Water Lily but it was not to be the case >>Best Wishes >>Chris >>Thanks to both Cheri & maria Lima for the useful hints. I been to Archives >>NZ and they were very helpful and supplied me some information which I didn't >>have. This is how I found out my GtGt Grandfathers name and as I said >>earlier his place of birth is listed as Azores or Western Isles, neither of >>which is very useful! The Obits & Marriage papers were of no use either. I >>can only surmise given the period in which he lived, he didn't have an easy >>time of it not being "english' and authorities possibly found it easier just >>to say 'Western Isles' on official documents. >>>I have spent hours pouring over shipping lists and did find a Francis Joseph >>>from Flores, who seems about the right age, travelled to Nantuckett, >>>Nantuckett, Mass and later on >>>was perhaps the same man sailing the Atlantic & Pacific showing up in >>>Australia. Both the time frame and age of the individual fits at various >>>recorded points. However there is absolutely no proof it is my Gt >>>Grandfather at this point. >>>I haven't had much luck with either Ancestry.com or Mr Holmes' site. >>>So here's hoping someone, some where may have some info, I read my Azores- >>>Geneology emails every day and delight when someone gets some good news >>>about an ancestor! Thanks, Tony --- On Sun, 20/5/12, Maria Lima >>><maria.lima...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>From: Maria Lima <maria.lima...@gmail.com> >>>>Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francis Joseph >>>>To: "azores@googlegroups.com" <azores@googlegroups.com> >>>>Cc: "<azores@googlegroups.com>" <azores@googlegroups.com> >>>>Date: Sunday, 20, May, 2012, 7:06 AM >>>> >>>> >>>>Hi Tony >>>>Cheri is correct about the documents that will lead you to know where in >>>>the Azores he came from. >>>>If you could find the wife's name then you could look on pioneer index for >>>>more info. That is how I discovered info that lex ne to uncover much about >>>>our 2 gold miner great grandfathers (actually my husband's). If ge married >>>>an English girl, maybe she was Wesleyan. I learned that they were >>>>dissenters fm the Church of England, as was the case in one of our >>>>ancestors. Your gr grandfather was born a few year before our 2guys 1836 >>>>and 1838 but there were several siblings born before them. They were drawn >>>>to Australia by the goldfields. Any family stories that would give more of >>>>a clue? >>>>I was able to get the marriage certificate for my husband's gr grandfather >>>>and that's how I knew they were married by theWesleyan minister. >>>>I alzo found them on unassisted passengers comment on the ship Water Lily >>>>in 1853. Are there museums in the New Zealand area where they preserve >>>>names and history like they have in Victoria. >>>>Try cemetery where the family lived. Sounds like stayed put in one area >>>>(?) so if he was a carpenter maybe he made furniture- the old newspapers >>>>had many ads. I learned slot about out guys from the Creswick and Clunes >>>>daily Register and Advertiser. Then I sent away to the public records >>>>office Victoria for each of 18 articles where their names are mentioned. >>>>It is tedios but peopke in Victoria were amazingly helpful as I live in the >>>>US. I hope you keep looking and you will find him. My husband's gr >>>>grandfathers were J J DE LIMA and their father was Antonio José. Best of >>>>luck Maria Elena >>>>On May 19, 2012, at 2:49 AM, "Tony" <tone2ma...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>Francis Joseph was born in 1833, some where in the Azores. His Father was >>>>carpenter named Antonio. We don’t know the name of his Mother. Francis >>>>left the Azores as a young boy and >>>>>spent some years on whaling ships before “jumping ship” in New Zealand. >>>>>He was then 34 years old and spent the next 50 years living here. He >>>>>never became a naturalised citizen of New Zealand... In 1883, at the >>>>>age of 50 years he married an English woman in New Plymouth, Taranaki, >>>>>New Zealand and they had 3 children. Francis died there in August 1917 >>>>>aged 84 years. We do not know which island he came from and if anyone in >>>>>the room has any connection or knowledge of him or his family I’d be very >>>>>grateful to hear from you. He is my Gt Grandfather. >>>>>My Uncle who knows less than I do told me that about 30 years ago a lady >>>>>from America came looking for our family. Perhaps we have some American >>>>>relatives? Thanks, Tony-- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions >>>>>when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, >>>>>Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and >>>>>visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the >>>>>blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to >>>>>"Edit my membership."-- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions >>>>>when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, >>>>>Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and >>>>>visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the >>>>>blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores.. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." >>From: Tony Matthews <tony...@xtra.co.nz>To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: >>Sunday, 20 May 2012 4:11 PMSubject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francis Joseph-- >>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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