Hi Rick I know you are right about mentioning a second marriage and, in the case of the younger sisters, Victorina was married first and Perpetua second - to Christiano. The marriage records say that Perpetua was the second marriage and I have family proof that this was the case. That one is fine. In the current search (the previous generation) I believe Perpetua was married first and Victorina second. My search now is for the marriage in Urzelina sometime prior to 1825 when the first Victorina was married to Manoel, his second marriage. A lot of the records are very degraded around this time. Victorina the younger is my ancestor and it is clear that her mother was also Victorina. I am working on the theory that the mother named her first daughter after herself and the second daughter after her sister Perpetua (?) (who had also been married to Manoel de Sousa Machado). The second marriage record of Manoel can prove or disprove. It just seems all too coincidental that the second pair of sisters married the same guy and that Manoel de Sousa Machado appears twice in the same village, same era, married to a Victorina and a Perpetua. the names aren't all that common. If so, it seems they were a very close family. Diane Donnon South Australia
On Sunday, 21 October 2012 05:13:06 UTC+10:30, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: > *I see a problem in that on a second marriage record it will usually > state the name of the first spouse. The record on the marriage of Perpetua > Rosa and Manuel de Sousa Machado there is no indication of it being a > second marriage.* > > * * > > *Rick* > > * * > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Spring, TX* > > *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire * > > * * > > *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and > Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores* > > * * > > *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> [mailto: > azo...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>] *On Behalf Of *Diane > *Sent:* Saturday, October 20, 2012 1:58 AM > *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Please help with Perpetua Rosa again > > > > Hi Marcio > > > > thank you for the info. There is a bit of confusion about the generations > here but I believe I am on the right track. > > > > My GGGrandfather Christiano Machado Pereira married twice - 2 sisters > Victorina Rosa and Perpetua Rosa (b 1825 and 1828). > > The parents of the two sisters were Manuel de Sousa Machado and Vitorina > de Jesus as per the marriage records. > > > > I have been searching for the marriage of Manuel and Victorina (the > elder) prior to 1825 when Victorina (the younger) was born. and that's when > I came across the marriage of Perpetua Rosa and Manuel de Sousa Machado in > 1816 - as per the link. I figured this is too much of a co-incidence and > now believe that GGGGrandfather Manuel de Sousa Machado also married two > sisters Perpetua Rosa and Victorina Rosa. Those female names are not all > that common in the records. I haven't found the marriage (2nd marriage) of > Manuel and Victorina (1) as yet but the same set of parents would confirm > that they are also sisters. > > > > Does that make sense?? > > > > It's very exciting. thank you to Pam too. > > > > Diane Donnon > > South Australia > > > > > > > -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
