Good idea Doug!
Susan

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:54:55 AM UTC-8, Doug Holmes wrote:
>
> Hi Susan,
>
> Have you considered the chance that maybe Nichols came from Nicolau?
> It's usually a first name, of course, but you know how that can also end 
> up as a surname when someone has an ancestor with the more unusual name 
> like that.
>
> Funny about the name Mary Agnes mentioned. My grandmother was Mary Agnes. 
> It seems to have been a popular name in the late 1800s.
>
> Doug da Rocha Holmes
> Sacramento, California
> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
> 916-550-1618
> www.dholmes.com
>
>
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> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mary Roderick & Joseph Silva | Azores -
> Island Unknown | Research Ideas
> From: Susan Vargas Murphy <uberl...@aol.com <javascript:>>
> Date: Thu, February 14, 2013 2:05 am
> To: azo...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>
>
> John,
> I have been away for a month and am just catching up with reading all 
> these Azores posts...so sorry this is late. I just wanted to tell you a few 
> ideas that I had.  I looked up your family in 1880 and saw that the 
> Roderick next door had the initial of "I"...i had the idea to check the 
> UPEC membership rolls for that name.....for Oakland, of which there are 
> many pages:)  Unfortunately I did not find a Roderick with that 
> initial...in fact there were only two Rodericks at all in the membership 
> rolls of the Oakland Councils.. There quite a few Rodrigues men, and I am 
> sure your Roderick is an Americanization of Rodrigues....however, there was 
> only one with the initial of I...Ingnacio A Rodrigues, who lived in East 
> Oakand, was from Flores and his wife is the wrong name.....she as Emelia L, 
> and listed as Amelia another year. Ignacio died April 29, 1913...there is a 
> 30 written above the 29...so maybe he died the 30th?  You might want to 
> follow up on that death just to make sure there is no way he is connected 
> to you. I really don't think he is, but he was from Flores.  Another 
> thought that I had is that when you say Mary married to Nichols.....maybe 
> her husband, Joseph Silva changed his name to Nichols? That just occurred 
> to me because on the 1880 Census he is listed as born in Portugal and I 
> don't think he was born with the name of Nichols in Portugal....how you get 
> Nichols from Silva, I don't know....but many of the Portuguese did strange 
> things trying to Americanize their names. I had an great uncle by marriage 
> that went from Soares to Swartz....kind of missed in trying to 
> Americanize...I am sure people must have thought he was German.  With the 
> son Joseph....and the name Dyce.....wonder if that could have been an 
> attempt to change Dias?  Most Portuguese men carried two surames....as in 
> Pereira Vargas in my family.....da Rosa Maciel also my family. My one 
> grandfather was Jose Ignacio Maciel. On the first Census after he arrived 
> he is listed as Joseph Enos...he Americanized his middle name. Then later 
> Census records and what he came to always be known as was Joe 
> Maciel...finally deciding to go by that name!  Another in my family was 
> Garcia in one Census and Goularte in another....again, trying to decide 
> with name to go by. I am just pointing out that your Mary may not have been 
> married as many times as you think...maybe they were just trying to figure 
> out which name to use. Good luck!
>
> Susan Vargas Murphy
>
> On Sunday, February 10, 2013 2:21:50 PM UTC-8, John Machado wrote:
>>
>> I have come to seek wisdom from the group.  Recently, I have hit a wall 
>> with one of my branches.  The ancestor nearest me is Mary Agnes Silva 
>> (married William Perry).  She was born in Buffalo, NY Jan 24, 1868.  Her 
>> parents were Joseph Silva and Mary Roderick.  I have no records of 
>> birth, only the death cert to confirm.  In 1869, I find the family in 
>> Oakland, CA, with a new son named Joseph.  Interestingly, Joseph’s name 
>> on the internment records is Joseph Dyce.  Also, his death cert is 
>> Joseph Dyce with mothers maiden name as Mary Roderick.  So that fits.  Fast 
>> forward to the 1880 Oakland, CA census she is now married to Joseph Nichols 
>> and living next door to a family of Roderick’s.  I have to assume it’s 
>> her brother.  Her mother was also living with the brother I believe.  All 
>> are buried at the same cemetery.  All I believe are from the Azores.  I 
>> would like to find from where in the Azores.  I have searched Ancestry 
>> at nausea, Google, news archives, library of congress and so on.  Anyone 
>> have ideas or connections?  I can’t find any info on Joseph Silva the 
>> biological father.  I assume only the birth record of Mary Agnes Silva 
>> would include that info, but she was born in 1868 Buffalo, NY, hospital 
>> unknown.  Mary Roderick (Silva, Dyce, Nichols) died in Oakland in 1901.  The 
>> death was only recorded on ledger and gives simple info.  Thanks for 
>> reading…
>>  
>> John Machado
>>
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