Sorry to hear you've been sick with allergies. Mine hasve just begun with the advent of the pine pollen!
Have not done much re genealogy as we have house guests from Canada. When they leave I'll get back in the swing. Basically - there are 2 things I'm lacking (besides brains!) how, when did the Mello's get to California from Hawaii? and how, when, where did grandparents get from Azores to Hawaii? I've given alot of info that I have in the original email below..... ________________________________ From: Shirley Allegre <shir...@digitalpath.net> To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese passenger lists Hi: I haven been sick for about 3 1/2. (stupid allergys) I am just starting to get back into the swing of things. Remind me about this. Shirley in CA ----- Original Message ----- >From: Jo Anne Hartmann >To: azores@googlegroups.com >Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 12:26 PM >Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese passenger lists > > >Hi Shirley, I think we spoke on the phone many months ago about this very >thing. I haven't been in town and not spending much time doing research, but >just got back and tried looking stuff up again. > > >My grandfather/grandmothers parents names are a mystery to me. I have NO >idea. I'm trying to find a needle in a haystack. I have some info from >other people doing research that may or may not be connected to me. I'm sure >you understand the "maybe" factor especially with such sketchy info. Manuel >Fragoso (?) Mello and Maria Medeiros Mello. At some point, they all lived in >Honokaa, HI as that is where my father, Ernest was born. He was one of many, >many kids! (13-16?) Most were born in Hawaii and the youngest were born in >California. Have never found birth records for Dad - he was born on October >11, 1901. The oldest son, Joseph Fragoso Mello was born in Hawaii on Aug. >31, 1890 and died on Mar. 4, 1944 in California. > > >From the 1910 Calif Census, Manuel F. Mello was born in 1866 in Portugal >(they never say Azores) and Maria/Mary was born in 1875. It says they were >married (in Hawaii, I'm assuming) in 1888. > > >1910 Census also says Mary immigrated in 1883....I don't know how much of the > census" records are correct. Info seems to change from census to census.I >have "other" info from someone researching on Ancestry.com that Manuel was 5 >when in came to HI and Maria was 18mo.old in 1881. None of this fits.....With >the names I think things have gotten all co-mingled with other family lines. > > >If I can believe the info on the 1910 census, grandfather Manuel F. would >have been 15 yrs. old and grandmother Maria/Mary would have been 8 yrs. old. > > >I found on one of the ships manifests a "STOWAWAY" by name of Manuel F. Mello >(I think it was in 1881) but it didn't say any age or anything else! > > >The census records have many mistakes by way of transcription. The latest, >`1940 census, shows my parents listed as "Mills"....Sheesh! > > >I have info from the 1900 Hawaiian census that shows a Manuel Mello, B/D 1868 >in Portugal immigrated to HI in 1887! married to Mary in 1889 - now do I take >that as gospel? I'm ready to throw up my hands on this! Dates seem to float >up and down. Geez when they interviewed these people don't they know their >own birthdate? Why do they keep changing, if, in fact, they are the same >people? > > > > > > > >________________________________ > From: Shirley Allegre <shir...@digitalpath.net> >To: azores@googlegroups.com >Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 11:46 AM >Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese passenger lists > > > > >What are the names of your grandfather and grandmother's parents, that went >to Hawaii??? >Also the names of your grandfather Mello, and your grandmother medeiros. > >Shirley in CA >----- Original Message ----- >>From: Jo Anne Hartmann >>To: azores@googlegroups.com >>Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 10:28 AM >>Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese passenger lists >> >> >>Are there ship manifests from 1881 and 1883? I believe my grandfather Mello >>and grandmother Medeiros emigrated to Hawaii those years as children from >>Sao Miguel... >> >> >> >>________________________________ >> From: "p...@dholmes.com" <p...@dholmes.com> >>To: azores@googlegroups.com >>Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 5:16 PM >>Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese passenger lists >> >> >> >>Just added a part of another ship: >> >> >>http://www.dholmes.com/ships/ship95.html >> >> >>These are mostly Sao Miguel passengers and some from Graciosa, but as more >>from this list are added, there will be some from Sao Jorge and also >>Terceira, etc. >> >> >>Once done it will complete all of the year 1896 to NYC. >> >> >>Enjoy. >> >> >> >>Doug da Rocha Holmes >>Sacramento, California >>Pico & Terceira Genealogist >>916-550-1618 >>www.dholmes.com >> >> >> >>-------- Original Message -------- >>>Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese passenger lists >>>From: <p...@dholmes.com> >>>Date: Tue, April 09, 2013 3:51 pm >>>To: azores@googlegroups.com >>> >>>Many more new ship lists added over the past week again. >>> >>> >>> >>>http://www.dholmes.com/ships.html >>> >>> >>> >>>1894 and 1895 to NY are now complete. >>> >>> >>>Only 1 remains for 1896. >>> >>> >>> >>>Doug da Rocha Holmes >>>Sacramento, California >>>Pico & Terceira Genealogist >>>916-550-1618 >>>www.dholmes.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-------- Original Message -------- >>>>Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese passenger lists >>>>From: <p...@dholmes.com> >>>>Date: Thu, April 04, 2013 1:10 am >>>>To: azores@googlegroups.com >>>> >>>>Thanks to the terrific volunteer work of Mr. James Rego Nicolau of the San >>>>Diego area, I have posted many new passenger ship lists on my website. >>>> >>>> >>>>The great thing about these extractions is that he has a good recognition >>>>of Portuguese names, unlike the extractions done by Ancestry.com and Ellis >>>>Island Foundation/LDS. >>>> >>>> >>>>While the person can be located if you use these other resources as a >>>>guide and are lucky enough that they didn't totally butcher the name of >>>>the person you seek, it is overall much more likely that the extracted >>>>ships I have (now am up to 78 ships) will quickly allow you to find them >>>>if they arrived on one of these extracted ships. >>>> >>>> >>>>Find them all here: >>>> >>>> >>>>http://www.dholmes.com/ships.html >>>> >>>> >>>>And if you decide you want to add your name to the growing list of >>>>volunteers, I can direct you to pick a ship or two for your own >>>>extraction. Maybe you'll even get hooked like Mr. Nicolau. I think he's >>>>done maybe 40 ships now. There are many more he has extracted that I have >>>>not yet uploaded. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Happy hunting. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Doug da Rocha Holmes >>>>Sacramento, California >>>>Pico & Terceira Genealogist >>>>916-550-1618 >>>>www.dholmes.com >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>-- >>For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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