Joao, After looking at your link I realize why I have Jose Thomas in the files. I worked on a project for descendants of Jose Lourenco Dias and Policena Candida. Their grandson Jose Lourenco Vieira immigrated here to California
in 1967. I was filling in some holes in their tree for his wife and their sons. The common relatives I share with the Lourenco Dias tree Manuel Coelho Rodrigues and Joana Freitas who married in Nov 1749. My line descends from their son, alfreres Jose Coelho Rodrigues b.1754 and the Lourenco Vieira descend from their son Francisco Antonio Rodrigues b. bef 1818. The Noia name came into my family through a female line, Isabel Maria daughter of Domingo Antono Noia and Maria de Annunciada married Antonio Coelho Rodrigues in 1821. Their son Domingo Antonio Noia b. 1829 was the only son to take the Noia name. This is my first immigrant ancestor. Domingo and his brother , Jose Coelho Rodrigues both came to California during the gold rush. They both returned to Flores, and Domingos son Manuel came back to start our line here. You can contact me privately for details Eric Edgar On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:05 AM, João Ventura <j...@venturas.org> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > Thanks for your invaluable help. I'll try to see if his daughter can look > at some of the information you provided and maybe remember some facts that > can help sort out the records. I was only looking for Jose(ph) Dias, but > indeed looking at Joseph Thomas might be the way to go. I believe that on > the second time, he did get a passport so I'll probably have to look at > that over in S. Miguel. I have some pictures of him and another friend of > him while he was in Nevada. I'll try to scan it and post it here. > > Eric, yes I'd be sure you'd have him in your records :) I probably have > some pictures from your side of the family as well. I think the Nóias and > this family were quite close. His oldest daugther married José Lourenço > Nóia, and even though the only Nóia ancestor seems to be Belchior Gomes > Nóia, I've seen that many of the extended family did marry with the Nóia > family. > > I forgot to add the link to my record for José in my original post: > http://venturas.org/familytree/individual.php?pid=I49&ged=venturas > > And his family: > http://venturas.org/familytree/family.php?famid=F18&ged=venturas (some > details are private, as D. Policena, his third daugther is still alive and > kicking). > > João C. Ventura > > On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:29:00 PM UTC+2, luiznoia wrote: > >> Joao, >> >> I have him in my files. He was baptized on 3 Oct 1877, son of Jose Thomas >> Ramos and Anna Clara , Paternos are: Thomas Jose Ramos and Joanna >> Francisca, maternos: Antonio Narciso and Maria Clara. >> >> The margin note on his baptism shows the death date at 16 Apr 1959. >> >> You'll find Joe Thomas on the census here at line 37, a shepard. They are >> at Island Mountain , Elko, Nevada. >> >> On the shiplist for the Peninsular 15 Sep 1898, from Flores to New York, >> you'll see 2 Jose Thomas, ages 19 and 20 , and a Francisco Thomas. >> >> One Joseph Thomas says he is joining an uncle Pedro Thomas in >> Massachucets, The other Joseph Thomas says San Francisco >> >> >> Francisco is headed to Mason Valley, Nevada. That's in Lyon county, 50 >> miles from Reno. He is joining an uncle Frank Martin. On the census is a >> Frank M Freitas, >> >> Sheep would have been herded from the summer in high mountains ( around >> Lyon county) to winter in low desert to avoid heavy snow ( like Elko) >> >> >> >> Eric Edgar >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:55 AM, João Ventura <jo...@venturas.org> wrote: >> >>> Hello group, >>> >>> I don't usually post requests for help, but I think this is the right >>> place to ask this one before wasting time. >>> >>> I'm looking for the American trail of my wife's great-grandfather, José >>> Tomás Dias. He was born on October 1st, 1877 and died on April 16th, 1959 >>> both events in Ponta Delgada, Flores. >>> >>> I've got information from his oldest daughter (still living) that goes >>> like this: >>> >>> - With 21 years (1898) he sailed on the "Peninsular" from Santa Cruz, >>> Flores to California. He was a sheepherder in Nevada. After 12 years >>> (~1910), he returned to Flores. >>> (facts) On January 27th, 1912 he married in Ponta Delgada, and his first >>> daughter Maria Lourenço Dias was born on March 27th, 1913. >>> - After 1 year and 3 months after his marriage (April 1913), he sailed >>> from São Miguel back to the US where he stayed 6-8 years (1919/1921). He >>> never returned to the US. >>> (facts) His second daughter was born on August 14th, 1923. >>> >>> He probably stayed/went with friends, so there might be others on this >>> list that have knowledge of this US periods from José. Also, where could I >>> find information on this 'Peninsular' boat, and the destination ports? I've >>> seen Doug Holmes' >>> http://www.dholmes.**com/ships.html<http://www.dholmes.com/ships.html> page >>> and noticed that it has some passenger records for the Peninsular all going >>> to Ellis Island. However, a search in the Ellis Island database apparently >>> didn't turn up any conclusive match. >>> >>> Also, would the US Census for Nevada pick up a sheepherder? >>> >>> Thanks for any info, >>> >>> João C. 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