I have seen it in many records. I never though much about it, but it makes sense that the marriage be blessed after consumation! The last part is my own thought on it :))
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:42:04 -0800 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose From: mari...@jmtmlt.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Is it common to have a Marriage Blessing received after the marriage takes place? On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Hermano C. Pires <lagoe...@hotmail.com> wrote: Marrilyn Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. What I wrote before are the facts contained there. The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other iformation there. From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima) Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Richard Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote: Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He must have been a real charmer. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hermano C. Pires Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 Hi Marilyn, There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose & Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862 In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel & Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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