Thank you that is great to find a cousin. I am glad you have such good information.
I will get back to you Marilyn On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Marcio Borba <marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com>wrote: > I just realized I had Jose Antonio GOncalves and his both weddings in my > data. His father Manuel Gonçalves (Fagundes), was brothers with my ancestor > Ana Maria do Rosario. See attached document. > > Marcio Borba > Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com > > > Em Terça-feira, 11 de Fevereiro de 2014 14:03, Marcio Borba < > marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com> escreveu: > They didnt receive the Blessings most likely because he had been married > before > > Marcio Borba > Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com > > > Em Terça-feira, 11 de Fevereiro de 2014 13:35, Marcio Borba < > marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com> escreveu: > They married Dec. 18 1862. > Jose Antonio Goncalves, 58 years old, widower of Quiteria Maria who died > in this parish, legitimate son of Manuel Goncalves and Clara dos Anjos. > Mariana Jose, 22 years old, legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and > Maria Vitorina. > > They were "dispensados do 2º. e 4º. grau de consaguinidade lícita" means > they were second and fourth cousins > > Marcio Borba > Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com > > > Em Segunda-feira, 10 de Fevereiro de 2014 21:02, Marilyn Thompson < > mari...@jmtmlt.com> escreveu: > > Is it possible to get a line by line translation? There are sections that > I have no idea what is being said. > > The part after Maria Victorina's name. > > I do not need the part talking about the Catholic Church and priest. > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Marilyn Thompson <mari...@jmtmlt.com>wrote: > > Is it common to have a Marriage Blessing received after the marriage takes > place? > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Hermano C. Pires <lagoe...@hotmail.com>wrote: > > Marrilyn > Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna > Jose. > What I wrote before are the facts contained there. > The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other > iformation there. > > ------------------------------ > From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 > > > *In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima)* > > *Rick* > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > *Spring, TX* > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM > *To:* Cheri Mello > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > > Richard > > Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? > I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about > twins > > Marilyn > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < > rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote: > *Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves > widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and > Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos > single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria > Cristenina. * > > *Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. > He must have been a real charmer. * > > *Rick* > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > *Spring, TX* > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Hermano C. Pires > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM > > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > > Hello Marilyn > Here is what I make of that record: > 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. > Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria > Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara > dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel > Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. > The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 > Jan 1863 > > ------------------------------ > From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 > *Hi Marilyn,* > > *There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it > starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are > the grandparents of Jose & Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel > Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of > Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was > baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862* > > *In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel & Clara) were > married. I would check out the marriages on this date.* > > > > *Rick* > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > *Spring, TX* > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com > [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com<azores@googlegroups.com>] > *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM > *To:* Cheri Mello > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html > > > Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link > > This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with > additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as > the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, > maybe? > > I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: > > 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose > > Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: > > Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos > > Marianna Jose's parents: > > Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about > Civil > > > I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this > record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. > > Thank you for your help. This group is great. > > Marilyn > -- > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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