Just a thought on how a priest could have legitimate children: It may not apply 
in this particular case, but I think that if a man is widowed he may be allowed 
to become a priest. Such a man may have grown children. 

 

Eileen Leite 

 

From: Lee [mailto:shorts...@suddenlink.net] 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:08 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Obitos - Graciosa

 

You are correct, Margaret...my brain finally figured that out....I kept 
thinking something right.

 

My cousins direct ancestor is Maria Baptista de Bettencourt who married Antonio 
Lobao (Lobam) Botelho on October 30, 1752 in NS da Luz (Graciosa), he; in turn 
was the son of Antonio Lobam Botelho (per marriage record) who married Felipa 
Espinola (this Antonio died in July 1750 at approximately 49 years of age per 
death record).

 

This now means there is a third Antonio Lobao/Lobam Botelho in the records.  I 
will have to watch out for that.

 

I sometimes believe they did this just to purposely confuse us in the future!  
grrrrrr

 

Thank you for your help - you've helped somewhat it in sorting it out....I will 
just keep in that the back of my mind...that he's there too and keep an eye out 
for him.

 

Now, bac to the drawing board....so, to speak.

 

Lee


On Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:43:54 AM UTC-4, Mara wrote:

Hi Lee,  

 

 I'm not sure how he can be your cousin's direct ancestor if he is a PRIEST. 
This obit is for the "Vicar" of the respective Parish of N. Sra. Da Luz.  The 
church didn't allow priests to marry nor did they registered illegitimate 
priests' children in this respective century.  At a quick glance the only 
relative mentioned in this will is his brother Francisco Coelho de Miranda.the 
rest seem to be Confrarias (Fraternal) religious orders with whom he was 
associated. Perhaps he's a brother of a direct ancestor?

 

 

 

margaret

 

On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Lee <shor...@suddenlink.net <javascript:> > 
wrote:

Margaret; thank you!

 

He is my cousins direct ancestor; she is a descendant of his son (who carried 
the exact name and died only a few years after his father).  I'm "struggling" 
to keep everything straight between them; since they had the same name.

 

It would be nice to have a full translation; but it's not really necessary - if 
I could obtain the main details; that woudl be fine for now.  I can get the 
rest at a later date.

 

I was just fascinated with it when I found it.  I knew it had to be important 
when I realized it took up the entire page.

 

Again thanks - I will let Nadine (and her 90 year father) know about this.

 

Lee





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