Hi Dano :)

I myself am an ARRUDA! I have seen dozens of church records too :)!!! (and by 
the way I am a proud "commonfolk")

There is  no daRuda in portuguese. What exists is d’Arruda (da Arruda or de 
Arruda).

 

Sometimes in written Portuguese (of that time) when you have two samme leters 
you write a big one (like na S)

 

eliseu, commonfolk :)

 

De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Dano
Enviada: sábado, 9 de Agosto de 2014 02:53
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sebastião de Pimentel - Marriage in Fenais 
da Ajuda

 

Eliseu, "daRuda" may not have existed in formal Portuguese language, but, it 
certainly was used by the "commonfolk" in the aldeias, the businessfolk on main 
street, and the priests addressing their congregations -  pronounced the same 
way it was spelled. It also exists to this day in the hundreds of years of 
church records that we, genealogists, are grateful still exist. The nasty 
problem with being a purist, is that every once in a while, one must face 
reality... :D

On Friday, August 8, 2014 6:26:55 PM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote:

Hi Mary Ann.

 

I would like to let you know that the “da Ruda” form you are stating never 
existed in Portuguese language :) 

 

De: azo...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>  [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com 
<javascript:> ] Em nome de Margaret Vicente
Enviada: sexta-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2014 13:46
Para: azores
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sebastião de Pimentel - Marriage in Fenais 
da Ajuda

 

MaryAnn,

 

Don't know if you require confirmation but the name as written on the document 
is Manuel da Ruda (old way of writing de Arruda or d'Arruda).

 

 

On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 9:24 AM, MaryAnn Santos <ma...@nyu.edu <javascript:> > 
wrote:

but I've seen it written all together like d'arruda 

 

 

On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
<rfrancis...@comcast.net <javascript:> > wrote:

It looks like Rocha to me. If it were Arruda the prefix before would be “de” 
and not “da” as written. The rest I agree with.

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

From: azo...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>  [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com 
<javascript:> ] On Behalf Of Rodney Figueiredo
Sent: Friday, August 8, 2014 8:30 AM
To: azo...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sebastião de Pimentel - Marriage in Fenais da 
Ajuda

 

Thanks for the help.  I thought that's what it said, but a second set of eyes 
is always helpful.  Arruda huh?  I thought it said da Rocha.  I will take a 
closer look at the bride's family. Thanks!

On Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:48:21 PM UTC-4, Rodney Figueiredo wrote:

I need help deciphering the groom's parents on the marriage record for 
Sebastião de Pimentel and Martha de Resende.  

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1730-1772/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1730-1772_item1/P67.html

 

I can't make out the parents of the groom, other than the last name of the 
mother which I've identified as Pimentel. 

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated. 

 

Thanks!

 

 

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