Thanks Margaret. I regarding the "va" at the end of the last name, Velha- oops- I didn't realize that was an abbreviation for widowed. Thanks for teaching me.
Regarding Izabel- I will see if I can find another marriage of a Baltezar Gomez de Moira and IZABEL de Fontes. I thought I had found it. More digging.😁😁😁 Maria Elena > On Aug 2, 2016, at 11:21 PM, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Sorry, ignore the "Francisca" part as it relates to something else I was > working on and I got it mixed up...sorry. > >> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 12:18 AM, Margaret Vicente >> <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Maria, I don't see how it would change from Pacheco de Leandres to Fontes as >> she seems to carry her Mother's name on this marriage record. Note also >> that the bride has two first names "Isabel Francisca" perhaps this is not >> the right couple? >> >> The marriage record itself inferred Baltazar was re-married. First it names >> the Groom's parents: Baltasar Gomes de Moura and Ana Velha. Secondly names >> the Godparents as the Groom's own father (seu pai) Baltazar Gomes the Moura >> and his wife Barbara Velha. >> >> Regarding the link for Ana Velha's obit, this is not the Groom's Mother >> because the record reads Ana Velha, viuva "widow" at time of her death, >> which is not the case here as Baltazar was still living >> >> >> >>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 10:26 PM, Maria Lima <maria.lima...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Margaret and Shirley: Thanks! Now I have another question. In this >>> marriage record the bride's name is Izabel Pachequa de Leandeo but I. The >>> baptisms of her 4/5 children with Baltezar Gomez, her name is recorded as >>> Izabel de Fontes. That's why I jumped to the conclusion that the last name >>> was going to be Fontes and then I wondered where the "Pachequa de Leandro" >>> came from. >>> >>> I assume it's the same person, but the only similarity is the first name of >>> Izabel. >>> >>> >>> Second question: Margaret, you clarified that Baltezar was married before >>> he married Barbara to a Anna Velho. I found an obit for an Anna Velha Va >>> but it doesnt say she was married; Just where she resided. Seems strange. >>> Here it is: (1682). The Santa Barbara parish seems to be the only that >>> went back into the 1600's on Santa Maria. >>> Maybe I should keep looking. >>> >>> Top right: >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-O-1643-1706/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-O-1643-1706_item1/P16.html >>> >>> >>> >>> Maria Elena >>> >>> > On Aug 2, 2016, at 3:00 PM, Shirley Allegre <shir...@digitalpath.net> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > Maria this is the best that I can figure out. (This is a real hard one.) >>> > >>> > 16 June 1672 >>> > Balthezar Gomes Leandro >>> > (Balthezar Gomes de Moira X Anna Va/Vieira?, deceased.) >>> > SPOUSE >>> > Isabel Pacheco de Liam >>> > (Francisco Andrade X Isabel? Catharina Pacheco) >>> > GODPARENTS >>> > Balthezar de Moira X Barbara Va/Vieira >>> > >>> > Hope this helps a little bit >>> > Shirley in CA >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maria Lima" <maria.lima...@gmail.com> >>> > To: "AZORES" <azores@googlegroups.com> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 11:44 AM >>> > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] BALTEZAR GOMEZ DE MOIRA 's marriage >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Help with names of parents? please? >>> > Bottom right hand >>> > >>> > Starting with the fifth line down. >>> > >>> > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1681-1699/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1681-1699_item1/P19.html >>> > >>> > >>> > Baltezar Gomez de Moira, son of Baltezar Gomez de Moira and his wife >>> > Anna(?) or Luzia (?) I can't figure it out) both deceased, with Izabel >>> > Fo... (I know it's Fontes fm other records)- >>> > >>> > Fifth line down: looks like part of Izabel's name is Pachequa de >>> > "Liandres??? Daughter of Francisco de Andrade (?Coreia?) >>> > And Catharina Pachequa de ?(Liandres??) >>> > >>> > Godfather it says Baltezar Gomez de Moira "her" father and Barbara Va >>> > (?). did it say BARBARA Va was a wife of Baltezar? I'm trying to figure >>> > out who is the child of Baltezar de Moira mentioned. Can someone please >>> > help me with this? Thank you. >>> > >>> > Maria Elena >>> > >>> > -- >>> > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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