Susan Ask Cheri is she (or Rosemarie or Kathy) can send you a link to an article on Naming Traditions among the Portuguese. It may help explain a lot about how different their surname patterns/choices are to ours. And, why you can't assume the names used in the islands are the same as the ones used here in the states. Also, how a single person could use many variations and alcunhas over their lifetime.
Gayle > On Sep 7, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Susan Schoen <susanleesch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Gayle, > > Thank you, that's good to know of course, but very disappointing. What a > roller coaster! Maria Teresa Maciel is the only name that we have known her > by, which is frustrating. I was excited when I found any reference to Maciel > in the baptismal records & was hoping that since that was the name that she > chose that it was a significant or close family connection. Also, when I > looked in the family tree on CITEM that is connected to this Maria, there > were a few other Maria Teresa's & Teresa's. The mother's name is listed as > Maria Teresa. > > I wonder if our Maria Teresa really had a different name at birth, but then > took on this name later because this Maria had died? There are several > different dates suggested for her birth in the census records, from 1865 to > 1868. I have seen an even wider range of dates for other people. Makes you > wonder if some didn't even know what their actual date of birth was & just > picked one that seemed likely, but forgot which one that they had picked > before! Sigh. Back to the haystack. > > I'm going to try to get hard copies of her marriage & death certificates to > see if there is any more info there. > > Thanks for your time & willingness to help. > >> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy >> <azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> Susan, >> >> The birthdate is 15 July 1865. She was baptized on the 17th of July. But, >> according to CITCEM, this Maria died 1 July 1885 at age 19. >> >> Gayle >> >> >> >>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:59 AM, Susan Schoen <susanleesch...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Thank you Gayle for the suggestion to check the CITCEM. I found the same >>> reference to her being born in August 1865 & actually found her on 17 July >>> 1865 in Sao Mateus on the CCA. I had seen people post screenshots from >>> GenWeb, but never knew how they generated them, so thanks. & thanks also to >>> Richard for helping translate too. The new one that I found is prettier & >>> should be easier. I also found a cousin who understands Portuguese, but I >>> know that the members of this forum have had more practice and are so much >>> better at deciphering the subtleties. >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867_item1/P195.html >>> # 40 on the right >>> >>> I think that it's 17 July 1865? which is closest to the info found on >>> GenWeb: >>> http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Matca&lang=en&m=D&p=maria+teresa&n=jesus&oc=7&v=5&t=L&bd=0&color= >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Susan, >>>> Sorry, to tell you, but 60ish cMs is NOT a strong DNA match. The most two >>>> people can share in common is in the 3000 range. 60ish pales in >>>> comparison. You'll need a really good paper trail to make 60ish cMs pan >>>> out. Those matches need more work. Start with 100+ cMs or more to have >>>> success in working with DNA. >>>> >>>> Cheri Mello >>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >>>> Tainhas, Achada >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Susan Schoen <susanleesch...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> One is 60.4 with largest 22.6 & the other significant one is 59.9 & 19.6 >>>>> largest. >>>>> & also match on 3 other kits that the same person administrates for his >>>>> family, so I don't think that it's just a fluke. >>>>> >>>>> There is only one other match that is higher that was not a known >>>>> relative. The one next higher is a 4th cousin @ 61.7 & 27. >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Define "Strong" matches. How many cMs and what's the longest block? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>>>>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>>>>> membership." >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>>>> Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/5x1hJPDzqVw/unsubscribe. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>>>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>>>> membership." >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right >>>> that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>> Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/5x1hJPDzqVw/unsubscribe. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >>> -- >>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right >>> that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right >> that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/5x1hJPDzqVw/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.