Hi Maria,

Re your question Sousa (TRA).  it stands for tramapinho.  As far as I can
determine this is an alcunha or nickname.  "trama" is a quality of pine.

You can check for yourself, marriage record link below, top left.

The groom is Jose de Sousa da Silva son of Jose the Sousa tramapinho and of
Maria da Silva.

The bride is Laurencia de Sousa de Vasconcelos daughter of Manuel Concelos
(Vasconcelos, correct form) of Mosteiros, and Maria de Sousa

You still need to find the birth record for the mancebo, Jose de Sousa.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1708-1732/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1708-1732_item1/P103.html





On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Maria Lima <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Cheri and Rosemarie,
>
> I just SAW IT!  . The mother's last name is SOUZA! But what I'm stumped on
> is the whole name of  Jose's  father.  Can u read it?
>
> It looks like SOUZA TRA.(??). I totally can't figure out his last name
> either
>
>
>
> Maria Elena
>
> On Nov 7, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Maria, paternal mother is Laurencia something, ja de funta (already dead).
>
> Rosemarie
> [email protected]
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:49 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Jose de Souza Mancebo. Antonia da Conceicao.
>>
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:21 AM, Maria Lima <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> RIGHT SIDE
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
>>> RELVA-C-1762-1780/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780_item1/P4.html
>>>
>>>
>>> I am seeing "Souza tra  Mob... (?).   it doesn't make sense to me.  The
>>> last name of his wife is not clear to me either:  Lourenca de farda (?).
>>> Can anyone make this out???
>>>
>>> Thank you!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maria Elena
>>>
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