Maria, if you look again at the mancebo, marriage record where you see the "TRA" if you put the next letters together you will see the word "tra mocinho"
Glad to help, Have fun! On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Maria Lima <[email protected]> wrote: > Wow! Margaret, again you come to my rescue. I never would have guessed > the "TRA" abbreviation, or didn't realize the name "Mancebo" meant "the > younger" > > This is so helpful. Yes, I was wondering if I could find baptismal > records if I were guessing the name of the father but now I'm more > confident, thanks to you and the other wonderful people on this list. > > Thank you allπππ > > Maria Elena > > On Nov 7, 2016, at 12:18 PM, Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi Maria, > > Re your question Sousa (TRA). it stands for tramapinho. As far as I can > determine this is an alcunha or nickname. "trama" is a quality of pine. > > You can check for yourself, marriage record link below, top left. > > The groom is Jose de Sousa da Silva son of Jose the Sousa tramapinho and > of Maria da Silva. > > The bride is Laurencia de Sousa de Vasconcelos daughter of Manuel Concelos > (Vasconcelos, correct form) of Mosteiros, and Maria de Sousa > > You still need to find the birth record for the mancebo, Jose de Sousa. > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- > PD-RELVA-C-1708-1732/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1708-1732_item1/P103.html > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Maria Lima <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thanks Cheri and Rosemarie, >> >> I just SAW IT! . The mother's last name is SOUZA! But what I'm stumped >> on is the whole name of Jose's father. Can u read it? >> >> It looks like SOUZA TRA.(??). I totally can't figure out his last name >> either >> >> >> >> Maria Elena >> >> On Nov 7, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Maria, paternal mother is Laurencia something, ja de funta (already >> dead). >> >> Rosemarie >> [email protected] >> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, >> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >> >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:49 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Jose de Souza Mancebo. Antonia da Conceicao. >>> >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >>> Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:21 AM, Maria Lima <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> RIGHT SIDE >>>> >>>> >>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD- >>>> RELVA-C-1762-1780/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780_item1/P4.html >>>> >>>> >>>> I am seeing "Souza tra Mob... (?). it doesn't make sense to me. The >>>> last name of his wife is not clear to me either: Lourenca de farda (?). >>>> Can anyone make this out??? >>>> >>>> Thank you!!! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Maria Elena >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > > > -- > Margaret M Vicente > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Margaret M Vicente -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
