Wow! Margaret, again you come to my rescue. I never would have guessed the "TRA" abbreviation, or didn't realize the name "Mancebo" meant "the younger"
This is so helpful. Yes, I was wondering if I could find baptismal records if I were guessing the name of the father but now I'm more confident, thanks to you and the other wonderful people on this list. Thank you allπππ Maria Elena > On Nov 7, 2016, at 12:18 PM, Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi Maria, > > Re your question Sousa (TRA). it stands for tramapinho. As far as I can > determine this is an alcunha or nickname. "trama" is a quality of pine. > > You can check for yourself, marriage record link below, top left. > > The groom is Jose de Sousa da Silva son of Jose the Sousa tramapinho and of > Maria da Silva. > > The bride is Laurencia de Sousa de Vasconcelos daughter of Manuel Concelos > (Vasconcelos, correct form) of Mosteiros, and Maria de Sousa > > You still need to find the birth record for the mancebo, Jose de Sousa. > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1708-1732/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1708-1732_item1/P103.html > > > > > >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Maria Lima <[email protected]> wrote: >> Thanks Cheri and Rosemarie, >> >> I just SAW IT! . The mother's last name is SOUZA! But what I'm stumped on >> is the whole name of Jose's father. Can u read it? >> >> It looks like SOUZA TRA.(??). I totally can't figure out his last name either >> >> >> >> Maria Elena >> >>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Maria, paternal mother is Laurencia something, ja de funta (already dead). >>> >>> Rosemarie >>> [email protected] >>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, >>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:49 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Jose de Souza Mancebo. Antonia da Conceicao. >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheri Mello >>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >>>> Tainhas, Achada >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:21 AM, Maria Lima <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> RIGHT SIDE >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780_item1/P4.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am seeing "Souza tra Mob... (?). it doesn't make sense to me. The >>>>> last name of his wife is not clear to me either: Lourenca de farda (?). >>>>> Can anyone make this out??? >>>>> >>>>> Thank you!!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Maria Elena >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > > -- > Margaret M Vicente > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
