Latin helps. Or even any of the Romance languages (Spanish, Italian,
French). All verbs have a conjugation pattern. The adjective is after the
noun. Nouns have genders. You just learn that son is "filho" instead of
"hijo" from high school Spanish. Even those who weren't required to take a
foreign language....the documents follow a format. You learn the format and
few keywords. With some perseverance, it can be done!

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 5:08 PM, <kerrysulliva...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The children, as I know them, of Jose da Costa and Luzia Ledo were: (I
> located this on both passenger lists and the outgoing passport lists on the
> CCA site, the passports were issued on 21 Nov 1919)
>
> Maria de Conceicas Menezes, born about 1895
> Maria des Anjes Menezes, born about 1896
> Maria de Merces Ledo Menezes, born 5/28/1903 (I think, there is some
> question about the year of her birth, but it's between 1902 and 1905)
> Luzia Agueda Ledo Menezes, born about 1906.
>
> I am still trying to find out what happened to the other sisters after
> they arrived in the U.S. in December of 1919.  They landed in New Bedford;
> Maria de Merces, or Mercedes as she was called, married her cousin Jose da
> Costa Menezes (son of Alberto da Costa Menezes in 1920.  They moved to
> Cambridge, Massachusetts the following year.  I know that Luzia went with
> them; she and her father are living with Joseph and Mercedes in 1930 and I
> know that Mercedes and Louise, as Luzia was called here, remained close
> through the 1930s and 1940s.  Mercedes died 12/9/1983.  Her husband died
> 3/11/1972, both in Cambridge.  I am working on finding the other sisters.
> I believe also that a brother, Angelo, remained in Ribeira Grande, at least
> in 1919.  Family tradition has it that Luzia Ledo and possibly other of her
> children died in the Spanish flu epidemic in 1918-1919, I do not know if
> this is true.
>
> I greatly appreciate you telling me that their freguesia was Matriz!  I
> have found some of the baptismals and the marriage of Luzia Ledo. I do not
> speak Portuguese but my old school-time Latin is helping me, and my
> brother-in-law is Brazilian and has offered to help as well!
>
> I will keep you posted as I find things!
>
> Kerry
>
>
> On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 5:21:59 AM UTC-5, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi. I would love any info you have. Thank you very much for your response.
>> Eliseu
>>
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>>
>> -------- Mensagem original --------
>> Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel
>> De: kerrysu...@gmail.com
>>
>> Para: Azores Genealogy
>> CC:
>>
>>
>> Eliseu, let me know if you want info on Luzia Ledo's daughters.  One of
>> them is my great grandmother.  I am trying to track down the other three
>> who came to the U.S.
>>
>> best,
>>
>> Kerry
>>
>> On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 3:39:31 AM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Luzia Águeda Ledo was born in 20.7.1865. Matriz( Nossa Senhora da
>>> Estrela), Ribeira Grande. She married in 28.1.1895 in Matriz Ribeira Grande
>>> to José da Costa Menezes born 31.1.1866, Matriz da Ribeira Grande. He was a
>>> carpenter. (The Ledo are cousins of me)
>>>
>>> It’s a start!!!
>>>
>>> Muito Obrigado,
>>>
>>> *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva, “sharing is the best way of growth… so stay
>>> gold!”*
>>>
>>> *Azores (S. Miguel, Graciosa, Faial); Mainland (Alentejo)*
>>>
>>> (http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel?lang=en)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *Em nome
>>> de *kerrysu...@gmail.com
>>> *Enviada:* 22 de agosto de 2016 01:47
>>> *Para:* Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Assunto:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> New to list - my ggrandfather Jose da Costa Menezes was born 1900 in
>>> Ribeira Grande and emigrated to America between 1916 and 1918.  Once in
>>> Massachusetts, he married his cousin, Maria das Merces.  She was also from
>>> Ribeira Grande, born in 1903 or 1904.  Her father was Jose da Costa.  Her
>>> mother, I believe, was named Luzia Ledo.  She arrived in New York in 1919
>>> with her father (who had been in America for 12 years, the story handed
>>> down is that he returned to get his daughters after their mother died from
>>> the Spanish flu).  The sisters were Maria Conceicao, Maria des Anjes, and
>>> Luzia.  They left behind a brother, Angelo Costa Menezes.  Waiting for them
>>> in Fall River was Jose da Costa's brother, Gabriel da Costa.  Jose Menezes
>>> and Maria Merces, or Mercedes as we know her, were married in New Bedford
>>> in 1923.  They moved to Cambridge, MA by 1924, where they had a number of
>>> children.  Jose Menezes, or Joseph, died in 1972, Mercedes in 1983.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have combed the baptisms looking for Jose Menezes - his dob is
>>> 9/16/1900 - but did not find him.  Mercedes is a bit more complicated as
>>> the date of birth I have for her is 1902, which we know was not true, but
>>> was stated to make her older so she could work.  (this caused her a problem
>>> when she tried to get Social Security).  I believe it was resolved as 1903,
>>> but her Massachusetts Death Index dob is 1904.  I will have to check both
>>> years.  The date is 5/28.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm looking for any confirmation on these families...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> thank you!  Kerry Sullivan
>>>
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