Indeed...

Just to clarify:

1. Microfilms will no longer be orderable on a FHC - last day is August 
31st (9 days from now). Presumably, they won't throw them away, at least 
maybe until the reader breaks down.
2. Current access on the Internet will not change. It will remain exactly 
as it is either via CCA or tombo.pt.

What we're talking here is only that in some books in CCA, the quality is 
so low that to read the smudges you need to see the microfilm. Maybe they 
will eventually upgrade those books to a higher resolution in CCA. We can 
certainly ask them.

However, if you're a Mormon, there's another way to view the microfilms 
online. Take for instance the Vila Franca do Campo 
microfilms: https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/382500 . If you 
scroll down and click on the 'camera' icon, you'll be able to see them 
online at the full resolution. And to clarify. It's not just a FamilySearch 
account - it's an LDS church member FamilySearch account - those have 
higher privileges inside the system allowing them to do temple ordinances. 
There's no way to get an account of this type without becoming a Mormon. If 
you have a FamilySearch account, or you're a FamilySearch indexer, you 
still are locked out of most Portuguese images.

João Ventura
http://tombo.pt/en

On Monday, 21 August 2017 21:27:03 UTC+2, rcapodc wrote:
>
> Maria, 
>
> Tombo.pt is a portal put together by Joao Ventura in order to access the 
> CCA records faster. Tombo.pt has nothing to do with FamilySearch.org. The 
> Genealogy Society of Utah originally signed a contract with the Azorean 
> government to microfilm their records that were held in the Archives in 
>  Angra. FamilySearch.org has now digitized *those micirofilms* and that 
> is what we are talking about here, nothing to do with the portal Tombo.pt 
> nor the actual church records that the Azorean Govt. has digitized 
> themselves and put online on the CCA website.  
>
> Rosemarie 
> rcap...@gmail.com <javascript:>
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Maria Lima <maria....@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Rosemarie,
>>
>> So, does this mean that shortly will we not have access to tombo and the 
>> CCA anymore online?  
>>
>> Maria Elena 
>>
>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci <rca...@gmail.com 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>> Marie Elena,
>> Once you are at a FHC you can ask one of the LDS people use their 
>> password to let you into the digitized Azorean records. I'm sure that they 
>> will let you use them at the FHC, you just won't be able to access them at 
>> home. 
>>
>>
>> Rosemarie 
>> rcap...@gmail.com <javascript:>
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Maria Lima <maria....@gmail.com 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry Joao.  Now I understand.  I wasn't thinking about accessing the 
>>> records through familysearch because I mostly use Tombo.pt to see the 
>>> records.  I didn't even know I could currently access the CCA records from 
>>> familysearch.  Ill have to find out how to do that.  Thanks for all you do. 
>>>  
>>>
>>> Maria Elena 
>>>
>>> On Aug 20, 2017, at 11:42 AM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com 
>>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>
>>> FamilySearch has to negotiate with each government about their records. 
>>> Since the Azores are an autonomous region, I would think that would mean a 
>>> different agreement. I tried to view Madeira (since they too have a 
>>> different government). After 5 minutes of the spinning wheel, I gave up. I 
>>> know the Cape Verde records can be viewed from home. However, the last 
>>> information I had (from over 2 years ago) was that negotiations broke down 
>>> with the Azorean government. I can try to find out when I'm in SLC. I don't 
>>> know who the guy is who is in charge of negotiating with Western Europe, 
>>> but hopefully, I can find out.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 1:21 AM, João Ventura <jo...@venturas.org 
>>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Rcik,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, we're talking about the Church records, that you see on CCA (
>>>> tombo.pt is just a faster gateway to the same content). The quality of 
>>>> the CCA records is the problem. In the later years, they uploaded higher 
>>>> quality images, but the initial online books have really low quality 
>>>> versions.
>>>>
>>>> If FamilySearch allowed you to see them (if covered under the same 
>>>> agreement as mainland Portugal, only LDS church members are allowed to see 
>>>> them in FamilySearch), you'd see that they provide a much higher quality 
>>>> image than CCA ever has. And yes, I do know that they all come from the 
>>>> same source. It's just that FamilySearch gives you the scan in it's 
>>>> original max scan resolution, and CCA reduced it in size and quality to 
>>>> save on the network bandwidth.
>>>>
>>>> João Ventura
>>>> http://tombo.pt/en
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, 18 August 2017 21:41:26 UTC+2, Richard Francis Pimentel 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> *Ok we are talking about the Church records (baptism, marriage, and 
>>>>> obits) that we currently view on Tombo and CCA.  Then If I try to view 
>>>>> these records through Family Search the quality will be poor but if we 
>>>>> view 
>>>>> them through Tombo and CCA they will be the same as we see today?*
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> *Rick*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Epping, NH*
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and 
>>>>> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On 
>>>>> Behalf Of *João Ventura
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2017 1:44 PM
>>>>> *To:* Azores Genealogy
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Microfilms discontinued
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I'm talking about the church records (baptism, marriage and obits).
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> João
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, 18 August 2017 19:10:30 UTC+2, Richard Francis Pimentel 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> *Joao,  Could you clarify this. When you say the books you are not 
>>>>> talking about the church records. Do I understand this correctly?*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Rick*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Epping, NH*
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and 
>>>>> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On 
>>>>> Behalf Of *João Ventura
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2017 12:53 PM
>>>>> *To:* Azores Genealogy
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Microfilms discontinued
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> This is terrible news.
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> The Portuguese archives are not available from FamilySearch, except 
>>>>> for those with LDS accounts or some rare cases like Braga or Coimbra.
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> There are books available in CCA where the image is so low resolution 
>>>>> that I might as well be looking at it in Minecraft, and the only 
>>>>> possibility to read them is to go to a FHC and ask for the microfilm.
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> João Ventura
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tombo.pt/en
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
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