I’m having the same problem with the Joao Bernardo da Silvas in Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. Several of the Joaos married Marias and had their own Joao Bernardos. In trying to connect with Ancestry DNA matches with these names in their trees I have come to the conclusion that there was more than one Joao Bernardo da Silva family. And they were probably related.
I neglected to put the direct links to the archive documents in my tree so now I need to go back and look up all the documents by date. And on the godparent subject...one couple in my Rosais Sequeira family used the same couple for godparents for all their children. And to me that brings up the question of why...might there have been a family relationship? More research needed! I need more time! Mary On Sunday, February 24, 2019, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sam, > > Yes, you kinda have to go with an educated guess. Then try to prove it > with DNA. > > I come from a Miguel Correia in the Sao Miguel Arcanjo in Vila Franca. Son > of Manuel Correia married to a Maria de Souza in the very early 1700s. I > found Miguel's baptism and then I went about finding his siblings. It takes > 9 months to make a baby. Miguel was born May 8 of 1709. OK, go back to July > of 1708. So I started scrolling the mircofilm (this was B.C. - Before > Computers). So I landed in July and scrolled back in time until I found > another baby. Let's say the baby was born in December 1707 to make this > example easy to follow. OK December (12) minus 9 months = March. Scroll, > scroll, scoll. This is a Matriz and it's large. Stop and see if I'm in > March. Nope, I'm in July and low and behold, Manuel Correia and Maria de > Sousa are having a baby. There's no way a couple can have a baby in July > and then present a baby in December for baptism. So I went back looking at > every single record for ALL babies born to ANY Manuel Correia and Maria de > Sousa. I took took them all home (the printed copies - this was B.C > remember). The couple of times that the babies were born too close > together, I knew it belonged to the other family. Then I looked at the > godparents. One set of godparents seemed to appear over and over again. So > I sorted the families based on godparents. Then I checked the births and it > fits. So one Manuel Correia family has one set of godparents for their kids > and the other Manuel Correia family has the mishmash godparents. Am I > right? I have no idea. It's kinda of an educated guess. Because it's the > very early 1700s, it's a little too far back for autosomal (Family Finder > DNA). My dad's DNA should go back to about the 1730s and this line is about > 25 years before that. So I'd have to find a male Correia and Y-DNA test > them and then find a male Correia from the other Manuel and Y-DNA test and > hope they aren't 1st cousins or something. And if they are? I may be back > to my educated guess. > > When I have some time, I really should work this line more forwards and > look for ALL siblings of both Manuel Correias and Maria de Sousas. And > cross check for godparents. > > So long story short - if the records are old you are stuck with an > educated guess. If the records are 1800s, DNA could possibly answer the > question for you. > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 8:41 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < > azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> Ok, this question is complicated to ask, let alone to figure out the >> answer but; here goes… With so many people of the same name marrying so >> many people of the same name *and* with the priests sometimes writing >> Francisco Tavares Monteiro and sometime Francisco Monteiro Tavares, s*ome >> periods of time and some* *records* listing the grandparents and *some >> not*; how the heck is one *ever sure* of following the correct/same >> line? Is it all just an educated guess? >> >> >> >> Thanks for your thoughts and expertise. >> >> >> >> Sam (Mazatlán, MX) >> >> >> >> >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> >> Virus-free. >> www.avast.com >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> >> <#m_381307329807215635_m_7566595363435123336_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
