Thanks you, Marcos! This is one of the hardest things to teach beginning
researchers. This is a wonderful explanation.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 11:49 AM Marcos Saturno <markus...@live.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> Maybe as I was born and brought up in Brazil and speak Portuguese as my
> first language I could try to shed some light in issue of surname  suffix.
> As Cheri said, regardless of having the suffix or not the surname remains
> the same.
>  In the past people added suffixes, such as da, de, dos which are exactly
> the same as “Von” in German or “Van” in Dutch, to make them sound more
> important or noble.
> Since the 50s in Brazil, some family branches started getting rid of them,
> so rather being Maria de Figueiredo de Magalhães, she would be registered
> simply Maria Figueiredo de Magalhães.
> Some families remove the suffix when it is in front of the first surname,
> so Manuel da Silva Brito is simply Manuel Silva Brito.
> In my family, many de Araújo and de Menezes lost the “de”once it became
> the first surname, including an auntie who not only dropped it, but didn’t
> pass it to her children.
> Sometimes it may also indicate provenance, de Lucena, from the Andalusian
> city of Lucena in Spain for instance.
> Whether you or you ancestors have the suffix or not the surname remains
> the same:
> Silveira or da Silveira
> Lago ou do Lago
> Souza or de Souza
> Santos or dos Santos
> Regards,
> Marcos
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2 Mar 2019, at 02:53, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's the same. I'm guessing that sometimes the "dos" got recorded and
> sometimes it didn't. Too much vinho.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 6:38 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hmm, I guess my question should have been phrased differently.  In the
>> same time period, there are many with the surname Santos but; only a few
>> who go by dos Santos.  Different family lines?  No other surnames are
>> included on any of the dos Santos that I’ve seen but; Santos sometimes
>> stands alone and sometimes is accompanied by other surnames.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent: *Friday, March 1, 2019 6:43 PM
>> *To: *Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Another surname question: Santos and
>> dos Santos
>>
>>
>>
>> Santos is the surname. "dos" the prefix.
>>
>>
>>
>> Literally:
>>
>> dos= of the (plural)
>>
>> Santos= Saints.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 5:37 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> If one uses the back-slashes for the surname both Santos and dos /Santos/
>> would show up with only Santos as the surname.  They are two distinctly
>> different surnames, are they not>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>>
>>
>>
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