Hi Deb, It's not an error. In his mariage record, the mother of João Francisco is ANA MARIA, and not Guiomar Felicia. Your ancestors are mysterious. There is not a couple Francisco Martins * Ana Maria na Sé de Angra. There is one in Santa Luzia married on 1741. But João Francisco deceased with 50 years old, in 1818. Then it would be born around 1768 +/- 5 years. I didn't find a João son Ana Maria in Santa Luzia. And in the Sé, I found only a João son of Ana Maria and unknown father on 15 novembre 1768 (img 153). Isn't possible his father do a legal recognition later ? I don't know.
But, why have you change Ana Maria in Guiomar Felicia? Do you have some informations about that ? Frequently the 2nd mother's name change : Ana Maria, or Ana da Conceição .... But not Ana in Guiomar. I am not related with this family, neither my wife whose family is from Ilha Terceira. But José Rodrigues Quartilho, Guiomar's father, is a descendant of João de Aguiar his 5th grandfather. And the family of João de Aguiar is described in th Volume V of my collection of books "Familias da Ilha Terceira". I am completing it to a 3rd edition. I am not a profesional genealogist. Only a scientific researcher who publish his work, without to sell my datas (except the prices of the books given by the publisher and it's cheaper than a profesional). I hope my msg help you. Best regards. Philippe Garnier Paris - France https://philippegarnier112. wixsite.com/ familiasilhaterceira/copie-de- familias-da-ilha-terceira <https://philippegarnier112.wixsite.com/familiasilhaterceira/copie-de-familias-da-ilha-terceira> Le lun. 15 avr. 2019 à 20:26, 'Deb McCabe' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> a écrit : > Hi Phillipe > > I have sent a follow-up email to the Azores Genealogy group website. > THANK YOU SO MUCH for questioning my work, which led to the correction. I > can't figure out how I made the error since I have copies of the correct > Portuguese documents showing Guimar as the correct wife and mother and not > Ana Maria. Somewhere along the line I obviously transcibed something wrong > > My questions to you are (a) Did you look because you thought we were > related? or (b) Were you just curious? I am hoping the answer is (a). > > Either way, I appreciate your help. > > Deb > > *When I searched for ancestors, I found friends!* > > > On Sunday, April 14, 2019, 9:49:27 AM PDT, Philippe Garnier < > philippegarnier...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Deb, > > There are some problems with your data. > 1 - I didn't find the mariage of Francisco Martins and Ana Maria in > 30-07-1739, Sé - Terceira. > 2 - Francisco Martins,son of Francisco Martins and Domingas do Nascimento, > married with Isabel de Jesus in 06 May 1747, is not widow. Then, he was not > the husband of Ana Maria. > 3 - João Francisco Martins born in 1761 in Faial, son of Francisco Martins > died in 1771 in Terceira ?? > > Can you send the link with the Ana Maria mariage ? > > Best regards > > Philippe Garnier > Paris - France > https://philippegarnier112. wixsite.com/ familiasilhaterceira/copie-de- > familias-da-ilha-terceira > <https://philippegarnier112.wixsite.com/familiasilhaterceira/copie-de-familias-da-ilha-terceira> > > > Le dimanche 14 avril 2019 05:20:00 UTC+2, DBM a écrit : > > I am wondering if anyone in the group is related to my MARTINS direct > line: > > *6th great grandparents*: *Sebastio Martins* (no birth/marriage/death > dates or locations) and *Maria de LIma* (no birth/marriage/death dates or > locations) > > *5th great grandparents*: *Francisco Martins *(born 26 Oct. 1670; married > 7 June 1696 in Se, Terceira; died before 1747) and *Domingas do > Nascimento,* (born on ? in Piedade, Pico; died 23 Nov. 1707, Sao Pedro, > Terceira.) > *Daughter of Manuel Gonsalves * (born in Piedade, Pico; no marriage or > death info) and *Engracia do Porto* (born in Piedade, Pico; no marriage > or death info) > > *4th great grandparents*: *Francisco Martins *(born 1700 in Sao Pedro, > Terceira; married 30 July 1739 in Se, Terceira; died 6 April 1771 in Se, > Terceira) and *Ana Maria* (born and died in Se, Terceira; dates > unknown.) > Note: Francisco also married *Guiomar Felicia *and *Isabel de Jesus.* > > *3rd great grandparents*: *Joao Francisco Martins* (born 7 May 1761; > married 8 Aug 1788 in Feteira, Faial; died 15 June 1818 in Feteira, Faial) > and *Maria Inacia* (born 2 Feb 1761; death date unknown). > > *2nd great grandparents*: *Ana Inacia *(born 28 Sept 1794 in Feteira, > Faial; married 16 Feb 1827 in Feteira, Faial; died before 16 June 1868 in ? > location) and *Jose Francisco dos Ramos Martins* (born 3 Aug. 1804 in > Rosais, Sao Jorge; died 15 June 1868 in Feteira, Faial. > *Son of* Incognito and *Maria dos Ramos *(born 3 April 1768 in Rosais, > Sao Jorge; death unknown). > > *1st great grandparents*: *Jose Francisco Martins* (born 8 April 1828 in > Feteira, Faial; married 2 Dec 1871; died on ?) and *Virginia Emilia* (born > 27 April 1844 in Sao Mateus, Pico; died 28 Jan 1927 in Feteira, Faial). > Virginia is the *daughter of Bento Pereira da Costa* and *Maria Antonia.* > Note: Jose also married Maria *Felicia do Coracao de Jesus*. > > *Grandparents*: *Antonio Francisco Martins *(born 15 Jan 1885 in Feteira, > Faial; married 12 Jan 1908 in Oakland, Ca; died 31 Jan. 1935 in Oakland, > CA) and *Elysa/Elizabeth Abreu *(born 15 Feb 1891 in Sao Martinho, > Madeira; died 10 July 1959 in Los Gatos, Santa Clara County, CA). > > Fingers crossed that this info rings a bell with someone. > > Deb McCabe > > > > *When I searched for ancestors, I found friends!* > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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