Thanks Margaret

On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 8:26 PM Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Terri,
>
>
>
> It’s good to do your own  search to verify but you will be searching in
> vain, if indeed this is the couple you are working on.  They only had 3
> children (Umbelina, Joao and Maria] plus one unborn child at the time of
> the father’s death.  Umbelina was already married by the time the parents
> were wed.
>
>
>
> Here’s the marriage record on the death bed of Joao Travassos and Josefa
> Mariana, right sight.  Look at the bottom where you will see the named
> children the couple had between them.
>
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> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1/P115.html
>
>
>
> I have ancestors married at 12 and 13 years of age.
>
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> *From: *Terri Santos <terrisanto...@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *May 25, 2019 8:11 PM
> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco
> dePimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?
>
>
>
> Thanks everyone for your points.... Now time to search
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 8:02 PM Ângela Loura <angelalo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Terri, also search for Maria's parents death records, to see if the number
> of children is mentioned.
>
>
>
> Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> escreveu no dia domingo, 26/05/2019
> à(s) 00:48:
>
> The index was made by a human and humans can make mistakes. Look at all
> the kids and look for gaps between kids. Then search those gaps by hand.
>
>
>
> I'm suspicious that there was only ONE Maria!
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 4:45 PM Terri Santos <terrisanto...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> This is the only Maria born to Joao and Marianna that I found in the
> index.
>
> If she was baptized in Ponta Delgada, so then I'll look there....perhaps
> this couple lived there too?
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 7:37 PM Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Terri,
>
>
>
> Did you find every single kid for Joao Travassos and Josepha Marianna? You
> know every family needs AT LEAST 3 Marias! LOL
>
>
>
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>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 4:10 PM Terri Santos <terrisanto...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Here's the marriage record I found in SM-VFC for Francisco and Maria.
> Here it mentions Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada for her again.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1/P242.html
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> this is the death record for Maria
>
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> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1895-1899/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1895-1899_item1/P64.html
>
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>
>
> Seems to be the same person, but when I do the math....she is 11 years old
> at marriage..
>
> ????
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 2:56 PM Margaret Vicente <
> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Terri,
>
>
>
> The record states the different dates and places of baptism for the Joao
> and Maria, who were both Expostos; Joao on Mar 9th 1834 baptized same day
> in Candelaria.  Maria baptized in Sao Sebastiao de Ponta Delgada … days of
> of the month of January of 1844.
>
>
>
> The document is a legitimization record for these two exposto children on
> their father’s deatch bed as declared in the hour of his death recognizing
> them and marrying/receiving their Mother ……… marriage … book 8 of this
> Parish pages 113….
>
>
>
> It also goes to say the mother also recognized them as her own children…
>
>
>
> Record signed and dated June 11 1845
>
>
>
> m
>
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> *From: *Terri Santos <terrisanto...@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *May 25, 2019 1:06 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco de
> Pimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?
>
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846_item1/P70.html
>
> On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 1:01:46 PM UTC-4, Terri Santos wrote:
>
>  I`m trying to get some clarity for one Maria de Jesus in my files.  She
> married and died in Sao Miguel Vila Franca do Campo.
>
> Her death record on 10 July 1896 states she died at the age of 53 years
> old.  That makes her birth year c.1843, but that would make her 11 years
> old at marriage.
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