Jesse, what primeiro d’este refers to translates to “first of” or first child born with this name. Sometimes children died and the subsequent child was given the same name. Additionally, some girls were baptized as Maria, but they might have multiple Maria’s. Eg. Maria did Anjos, Maria José, Maria de Conceição, so you can see why the priest expands upon the number of children the couple has by numbering.
Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 21, 2019, at 6:26 PM, <doreencaet...@gmail.com> > <doreencaet...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I remember research two brothers with same name but they had very different > surnames. In fact it was hard to tied the one to the family except It was > mentioned in a baptism as a brother. That’s when I knew I had been > overlooking this one thinking I did not know how to place him in a tree. It > is also confusing because the men ( in certain families) change their > surnames at a certain point in their lives. This is why I started to create a > timeline to locate when the name changes so maybe I can note why. Still > working on that one. > One thing I work every hard at doing is trying to connect godparents with > their families in my tree. I wish I was better at reading Portuguese because > I think the witnesses at weddings would also hold valuable information for > making connections and completing family groups. I thank God for this group > to help with the reading of the records. > > I would love to have a discussion with people who are more skilled then I am > to see if what I’m thinking might have some merit or am I just wasting my > time. > Have a great day. > Doreen > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: 'Kathy Cardoza' via Azores Genealogy > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 8:19 AM > To: Azores Google Group > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Primeira d’este > > Cheri > > I’m sure you’re right but I am someone that has two Manuels, both lived, and > had families…… Not sure if I’m the example you mentioned or not? When I first > discovered this, I assumed the first Manuel had died. I knew the second > Manuel had lived …. he married the sister of his oldest brother, Francisco, > so I never researched that first Manuel. Eventually, after being contacted by > another researcher, we realized that HER Manuel was the first one in the > family, the one I had assumed had died. (He had changed his last name to > Rodgers, possibly to distinguish him from his brother.) This was proven, by > the way, with, among other things, his obituary that listed all his siblings, > including my Francisco Pereira da Rosa! Pretty exciting and a reminder to all > of us to keep an open mind and make no assumptions without proving or > disproving them. Oh, also, this family had two Maria Delfinas! Thanks a lot, > da Rosas, lol. I have never seen this in any other of my families with > Manuels. > > Kathy > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: > http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > On Jul 21, 2019, at 6:27 AM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So if you see a Manuel, first of the name, then see a Manuel, 2nd of the > name, the 1st one has died. Yes, someone on this list has found 2 Manuels, > both married and had kids. However, I'd say that was pretty rare. So > generally, the first boy has died. Cheri > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/855432A7-BA76-4C45-8C5C-917A5FF09C7A%40me.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d34e681.1c69fb81.48e83.1804%40mx.google.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/D9504601-5514-4938-BD27-90125071D87C%40yahoo.com.
