Kathy, I thought it was Rick Pimentel who had a couple of Manuels who both lived. I think it's pretty rare, but it did happen. On the boys, I'd check the obits for the older son first before scouring the marriages for the older son.
Debbie, the *general* rule that is taught is the birth of the first kid is 2 years after marriage. I start the day after the marriage and go from there. If I don't find any for a couple of years, then I figure I can go forward collecting the kids. If I find the bride and groom had a dispensation though, I look a couple of years before their marriage. They may have had to wait for the dispensation so they started their family in the meantime. That's just my method. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 7:03 PM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca < jessdebmendo...@gmail.com> wrote: > I was so hoping it meant I finally found their first child, lol. :) I > will hunt obits, now for lists of all the children. Thank you both for > all of the help in SLC! > > Thanks. > > Debbie > > > > On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 8:19 AM 'Kathy Cardoza' via Azores Genealogy < > azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> Cheri >> >> I’m sure you’re right but I am someone that has two Manuels, both lived, >> and had families…… Not sure if I’m the example you mentioned or not? When I >> first discovered this, I assumed the first Manuel had died. I knew the >> second Manuel had lived …. he married the sister of his oldest brother, >> Francisco, so I never researched that first Manuel. Eventually, after being >> contacted by another researcher, we realized that HER Manuel was the first >> one in the family, the one I had assumed had died. (He had changed his last >> name to Rodgers, possibly to distinguish him from his brother.) This was >> proven, by the way, with, among other things, his obituary that listed all >> his siblings, including my Francisco Pereira da Rosa! Pretty exciting and a >> reminder to all of us to keep an open mind and make no assumptions without >> proving or disproving them. Oh, also, this family had two Maria Delfinas! >> Thanks a lot, da Rosas, lol. I have never seen this in any other of my >> families with Manuels. >> >> Kathy >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: >> http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/ >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> >> On Jul 21, 2019, at 6:27 AM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> So if you see a Manuel, first of the name, then see a Manuel, 2nd of the >> name, the 1st one has died. Yes, someone on this list has found 2 Manuels, >> both married and had kids. However, I'd say that was pretty rare. So >> generally, the first boy has died. Cheri >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/855432A7-BA76-4C45-8C5C-917A5FF09C7A%40me.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/855432A7-BA76-4C45-8C5C-917A5FF09C7A%40me.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAJ7050uMsMrJS8%3DFU3v9%2Bwf4yRq2ppuVNAerU2rwzn6_x-GOXw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAJ7050uMsMrJS8%3DFU3v9%2Bwf4yRq2ppuVNAerU2rwzn6_x-GOXw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_EGqvu1GjoNugGJ5tB_gNM522un3WoGbDLyKjRQwdQX0A%40mail.gmail.com.