what arrival documents? who has those? this is amusing because no one in my family seems to know about this.
________________________________ From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Pamela Hand <poppymayf...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2020 12:48 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary Yes seems crazy but people did things for whatever reason and his tombstone states that he was born at sea, western Azores. He came to Australia as an adult and arrival documents state birthplace is Faial. Baptisms happened as soon as possible so could be either nearest church to the port in Horta or Lisbon depending on where the boat was headed? Any suggestions which parish/freguesia closest to the ports in either place would be a starting point. Thanks On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 05:10, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com<mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>> wrote: Why would a woman that pregnant get on the boat if he was born off the coast of Faial? If she went into labor and they were off the coast, why didn't they turn back and drop the expectant parents off on Faial? The could have caught the next boat. Giving birth and getting seasick at the same time?!?! No thank you, I'd catch the next boat if I was that pregnant! If the story is true, I have no idea where Azorean births at sea would be recorded in 1838-1841. There was no official vital service record keeping. The records of that time period are mainly the Catholic Church. If he was born on a boat, they'd have to take the baby to a church to be baptized, which would be a Catholic Church in Australia. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 7:58 AM Pamela Hand <poppymayf...@gmail.com<mailto:poppymayf...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Anthony Some of the Silver family researchers here in Australia believe that your Joseph Da Silva was born at sea around 1838 to 1841 off the coast of Faial, one of the western islands of the Azores. It is also suggested that records for births at sea are kept in Lisbon. Maybe Cheri or one of the group may know where these birth/baptism records for births at sea would be recorded and how to access them. I am guessing there would not be a lot of births at sea between 1838 and 1841, and therefore could be a starting point for you to find your ancestors. Hopefully someone can help. Pam On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 09:56, Anthony Silver <anthony.silve...@hotmail.com<mailto:anthony.silve...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Thankyou Cheri. hmm, that's something to really think about. ________________________________ From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> <azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com<mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>> Sent: Friday, 17 January 2020 3:04 PM To: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary Anthony S, You have to find out which island. It's just the way it is organized there. That's how they do their records. I don't know how it works in Australia, but I'm sure if I wrote to the main Australian government and said I want the birth certificate of my long lost cousin who went to Australia, they couldn't help me. I'm sure I'd need a location for them to pull a record for me. You need a location in the Azores. All occupations existed in the 1860s. Laborers, farmers, fisherman, servants, merchants, teachers, etc. No tech jobs, no electricians, no plumbers, as those things just didn't exist. I believe schooling was very limited and was only for the well to do. Schooling for the common people didn't start happening until sometime in the 1900s. You need to find every possible record that your immigrant ancestor may have left in Australia. You need at least an island. If you have exhausted that, then you will need to turn to DNA and you will need to test the oldest family members you can find and you will have to test multiple family members in order to get enough of your immigrant's DNA to figure out the puzzle. Good luck, Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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