On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 21:30 +0100, Brendan Quinn wrote:
> I was considering entering a hack for Hack Day around that very thing.
> But then they went and made me one of the judges ;-)
> 
> Wanna help? A simple set of scripts that scrape the archive (er I mean
> "call that big RESTful API") and post entries/updates to the freebase
> sandbox server would be an interesting experiment.

I've not yet (bulk) posted data on Freebase - I'll take a look at this
when I'm more au fait with it.

> compare
> http://www.freebase.com/view/?id=%239202a8c04000641f8000000000012406 
> with
> http://open.bbc.co.uk/catalogue/infax/series/DOCTOR+WHO
> !

Freebase is still in alpha as far as I know - those who can't see the
first link can see a screenshot at:
http://cornflakes.imen.org.uk/~oli/DrWho.png

Those who are particularly interested can feel free to ask me for one of
my remaining 4 invites - and I imagine Brendan has some too.

> There may be some rights issues around what would basically amount to
> opening up the programme catalogue under the creative commons
> attribution license, where the attribution wouldn't go to the BBC but to
> Freebase...

Well, the RDF for the catalogue links to
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/05/api_licence.html:

"The BBC grants to You a ... non-sublicensable right to copy..."

Further:

d. not publish, distribute or otherwise make the APIs available,
(including in any Work You create), in a way that would enable other
people to download or use the APIs other than as set out in this
Licence.


I don't see any legal way that we can export the data to Freebase and
relicense it as CC-BY.

I don't think it can be done without a relicensing of the catalogue - I
guess its lucky you didn't go ahead and write that script at Hack day :)

Would you be able to get the appropriate BBC people to get this done?

Regards,

Oli

> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oliver Cole
> Sent: 09 July 2007 20:51
> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> Subject: [backstage] Programme Catalogue vs. Freebase (was: BBC
> Programme Catalogue -any APIs yet?)
> 
> I've been following the Programme Catalogue since it was announced, and
> its pretty interesting.
> 
> I do however have a question for the BBC people on the list - have you
> considered simply uploading all the information to Freebase[1]? I can
> understand that you might want to keep it in house, but if you merged it
> with the wealth of information on Freebase you can do exponentially
> more.
> 
> For example, if it was properly integrated you could run a query that
> would tell me how many of the contributors to Spooks series 2 were born
> in London.
> 
> Regards,
> Oli
> 
> [1] http://www.freebase.com - A very cool structured database, currently
> handling 2.3 million instances of 870 'types'
> 
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