It's still about 8:1 between streaming and download.
 
Best not to confuse any issues around P2P with the general uses for download - 
when viewing content offline, at high quality, on a train or even transferring 
to mobile devices downloads will serve a particular user group and set of 
scenarios that Streaming can't.
 
Streaming of course, offers very easy access to the widest audience and when 
the quality is good enough, it is good enough for most people..
 
Download speeds depend - it only takes a few minutes to download programmes on 
my broadband service (Virgin 20MB) but will of course vary for different 
people...
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Barber
Sent: 18 July 2008 14:46
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Internet TV without streaming is like


Here's some figures:

...while the number of those choosing to stream content outnumbers those that 
download content by 8:1...
from http://uk.gizmodo.com/2008/01/16/bbc_iplayer_used_by_a_million.html, 
January 2008

...Given that the ratio of downloads to streaming views runs at 1:8 for 
iPlayer, it remains to be seen if a downloader will be popular for the Mac 
platform...
from 
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/3565-enterprising-soul-creates-bbc-iplayer-download-app-for-mac.html,
 May 2008

And from the BBC:
...Most programmes have a ratio of around eight streams for every download, but 
high-end drama, such as The Passion had over a quarter of its iPlayer 
consumption via the P2P download service...
>From 
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/04/hidden_costs_of_watching_tv_on.html,
> 2nd April 2008.

Shows are around 600MB, so downloading one of them at 1mbps is 80 minutes?

./Matt




On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Matt Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


        Unofficial off-the-top-of-my-head: 11:1 streaming:download.
        
        So this means even more pressure for the ISPs (a good thing in my 
opinion - will speed them up figuring out a viable business model for all these 
bits to be delivered) - and maybe a little less flak for the BBC for shifting 
the TBs with iPlayer.
        
        ./Matt 



        On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Oeztunali, Sebnem (CT) <[EMAIL 
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                Having to go fishing for your fish & chips (ok, I'm not very 
good with metaphors - big deal ;)
                
                Anyway, Amazon's streaming now, too: 
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/17/technology/17amazon.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=amazon&st=cse&oref=slogin
                "...It will also let users buy a TV show or movie without 
actually downloading the video file to the PC's hard drive..."
                
                I believe this is the single viable option, and is true to the 
antything-anytime-anywhere-goes potential of the Internet and let's you forget 
about vendor lock-in due to DRM.
                
                (P2P-)Downloading is yesterday's beer. How long does it take to 
get a show with iPlayer? Are there any numbers comparing the flash version and 
the iPlayer client usage?
                
                
                All the best,
                Sebnem
                
                
                P.S. for the P2P-at-heart among you: I am specualting that 
Amazon's streaming makes use of P2P technology (as well as their EC2 and S3: 
http://www.allthingsdistributed.com/2007/10/amazons_dynamo.html )
                
                
                
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