No worries, just don't let it happen again :)
 

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        From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk 
[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth
        Sent: 24 November 2009 12:42
        To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
        Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability
        
        
        Ian, 

        Sorry about that, it pasted fine into gmail and then it converted like 
that.
        
        
        2009/11/24 Ian Forrester <ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk>
        

                It would be preferred if people could make use of 
places/services like Pastebin for huge amounts of data which frankly little of 
us want to see in our emails :)
                 
                Cheers,

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                New Broadcasting House, Oxford Road,
                Manchester, M60 1SJ 

                 


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                        From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk 
[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth
                        Sent: 22 November 2009 11:52 

                        To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
                        Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs 
Usability
                        

                        To to avoid, or perhaps to add to, the confusion, I 
thought I should run the FLETCH score for the link titles that Jakob Nielsen 
likes so much.   Here they are with the article scores. 

                        Title score Title Article score 110.15  Boy aged 15 
dies of stab wounds 47.46 98.06  MSPs to get power to ban airguns 38.81 98.06  
Two women die in single car crash 37.71 94.04  More rain but flood risk lowers 
50.37 94.04  Jackson glove sells for $350 000 50.01 94.04  Pair attempt to rob 
coffee shop 46.75 94.04  End 'cheap bevvies'  Welsh urges 24.1 88.4  What the 
Scottish papers say 38.28 79.94  Men die after stolen car crashes 53.41 79.94  
Ray Mears on Canada 'Welsh hero' 48.92 79.94  Search for missing woman in river 
44.7 79.94  Group attacks taxi driver and car 41.82 79.94  Army checks police 
HQ car 'bomb' 40.43 74.86  Can psychics help to solve crime? 32.61 71.48  MSP 
seeks drink-drive limit cut 36.92 71.48  Facial wounds 'higher among poor' 
34.48 65.84  Shed is cordoned off after blaze 46.59 65.84  Men held over police 
gun attack 35.59 65.84  Hearing for US army base 'gunman' 26.12 65.84  Blasts 
kill five in India's Assam 23.84 54.56  Manx fans welcome Hollywood star 49.42 
54.56  Two people 'missing' after fire 46.85 54.56  City swimming pool plans 
unveiled 45.46 54.56  Indonesia ferry sinks in squall 43.5 54.56  Chinese mine 
blast toll doubles 40.08 54.56  Flood bridge safety checks begin 38.68 54.56  
Cern Collider makes fast progress 36.61 54.56  Student visas 'soar' after 
change 36.41 54.56  Beijing concerns over mine blast 33.33 54.56  New jab 
offers better protection 24 54.56  Town centre's taxi marshal scheme 18.46 
51.74  India push targets end of polio 34.55 51.74  Power is restored to city 
homes 30.18 51.74  Cameron and PM sorry over photos 29.03 37.64  Minibus crash 
man critically ill 37.43 37.64  Canoeist killed in swollen river 36.93 37.64  
Israeli air strikes target Gaza 25.15 37.64  Boy's death remains 'unexplained' 
24.16 20.72  Charge in mutilation murder case 39.54 20.72  Motorist fatally 
injured in crash 39.5 20.72  Paper publishes secret Iraq reports 33.89 20.72  
US Senate approves health debate 30.47 20.72  Polls open in Romanian election 
29.84 16.49  Whisky protected against copies 25.78 3.8  Tribute to caretaker 
fire victim 38.59 -4.67  Blaze destroys rural warehouse 29.08 -18.77  
Lawnmowers 'injure thousands' 38.76 -25.82  Cameron planning emergency budget 
29.63 -46.97  Azeri president threatens Armenia 27.22 -46.97  Senior Iranian 
reformer jailed 15.93

                        "Floods body is missing policeman" scores 37.635, 
"Whisky body backs safe drinking" scores 54.56. This means that the first one 
is harder than the second, but the score on the actual text is harder than the 
headline.  

                        Is a high score good ("the BBC is not dumbing down") or 
bad ("the BBC is inaccessible to the majority")?

                        2009/11/21 Frank Wales <fr...@limov.com>
                        

                                Mo McRoberts wrote:
                                

                                        On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 03:11:28PM 
+0000, Frank Wales wrote:
                                        

                                        So, am I supposed to conclude that:
                                        
                                        

                                        43.2 Floods body is missing policeman
                                        

                                        is noticeably easier to read than:
                                        
                                        

                                        22.6 Whisky body backs safe drinking
                                        


                                        I’d contend that in terms of sheer 
readability of the headlines, the
                                        floods one is far worse—in that it 
takes far more effort, but having
                                        successfully parsed both, I’d have a 
reasonable idea of what both
                                        stories relate to (enough for me to 
decide whether to read them or
                                        not).
                                        


                                So would I, hence my asking for the 
clarification that Brian
                                provided.
                                
                                Indeed, there is a completely sensible parse of 
the first headline
                                that makes it about a flood-related 
organization that is
                                currently suffering from the absence of a 
police officer. 

                                -- 
                                Frank Wales [fr...@limov.com]
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