why do you think early adopters are their *best* viewers? do you think that's how the BBC has/should have a preference for some viewers over others?
________________________________ From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Alex Cockell Sent: 30 September 2010 17:42 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] API into iPlayer content And by doing so, they're only pissing off their best viewers - the early adopters. Shooting themselves in the foot when hobbyists only want to *help* ----- Original message ----- > They've been going out of their way trying to stop unapproved apps > grabbing content. They put a lot of effort into making sure content is > unavailable to open source systems when simply leaving it as is would > mean anyone could write on top of iPlayer. > > e.g. read the second PDF > http://pjakma.wordpress.com/2010/05/17/bbc-response-to-my-iplayer-drm-fo i-request/ > > Open Source gets a mention under meetings with Technology, Piracy and > Enforcement ticked in the header of the minutes. > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Anthony McKale > <anthony.mck...@bbc.co.uk> wrote: > > Replace BBC with iPlayer and I'd agree with some of those points, it's > > more a indifference and lack of care rather than being directly > > hostile though. > > > > And I'd say that will changes rather soon, due to various management > > changes. > > > > Ps since no one's publicly said I can't.... > > > > Here's some really good ref data feeds (ps like all these feeds > > PROXY-CACHE don't hit feeds directly or you'll kill them) > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ion/refdata/type/service/ > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ion/refdata/type/category/ > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ion/refdata/type/masterbrand/service_type/t v/id > > s/service1/ids/sevice2/ > > > > eg > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ion/refdata/type/service/discoverable_only/ 1/fo > > rmat/json > > > > Very useful reference feed for ion, ps you guys aren't missing much > > from not having access to the wiki, it's mainly incomplete, inaccurate > > or out-of-date. > > > > Zap > > > > > > On 30/09/2010 13:15, "Iain Wallace" <ikwall...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Unlikely. The BBC have gone out of their way to be hostile to open > > > source attempts at using iPlayer content, however you will find > > > working examples and programs for playing iPlayer stuff on pretty > > > much anything on that same wiki. > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Alex Cockell > > > <a...@acockell.eclipse.co.uk> wrote: > > > > I'm not personally looking for metadata, but it would be great if > > > > some of the open-source players were permitted back into the fold, > > > > meaning that VLC and the like could play BBC content... Especially > > > > for cpu architectures that Adobe don't support. > > > > > > > > Oh, and be able to distribute said player plugins in Linux distro > > > > repositories. > > > > > > > > And I want to be able to play content on my n900 again. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original message ----- > > > > > Not sure what you're looking for, but all the metadata that > > > > > iPlayer pages uses to build a programme page is openly accessible > > > > > http://beebhack.wikia.com/wiki/IPlayer_Metadata > > > > > > > > > > It can't not be otherwise the javascript on those pages wouldn't > > > > > work. > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Anthony McKale > > > > > <anthony.mck...@bbc.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > it uses some of them, but iplayer it's self is created from > > > > > > them too > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk on behalf of Mo McRoberts > > > > > > Sent: Wed 9/29/2010 2:52 PM > > > > > > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > > > > > > Subject: Re: [backstage] API into iPlayer content > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 14:23, Anthony McKale > > > > > > <anthony.mck...@bbc.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > yah the feeds aren't https/firewall protected so i'm > > > > > > > guessing no one should > > > > > > > mind > > > > > > > or at least it'll be a lesson to them if they didn't want > > > > > > > folks accessing them > > > > > > > > > > > > If memory serves either the EMP SWF itself or the supporting > > > > > > JS makes use of them, which would require their visibility. I > > > > > > could be wrong, though -- I can't for the life of me recall > > > > > > how I came to believe this to be the case, so I could just be > > > > > > making things up. > > > > > > > > > > > > M. > > > > > > - > > > > > > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To > > > > > > unsubscribe, please visit > > > > > > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > > > > > > Unofficial list archive: > > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To > > > > > unsubscribe, please visit > > > > > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > > > > > Unofficial list archive: > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. 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