dan wrote:
> NFS will always be slower(seek times) than a locally attached disk, even 
> if all other interfaces are faster.

That's assuming the same filesystem as native on the other end. 
NetApp's filesystem will perform better than a typical Linux box and is 
likely to be distributed over many drives.

> the locally attached disk will have 
> native disk seek times while the NFS will have native + network 
> interface + network card + remote bus.  this will take an average seek 
> time from 9ms and probably double it.  for big files this wont be a big 
> deal as the difference in time will be negledgible but for small files 
> it will be devistating to performance. 

For writes, this only matters if you are running in sync mode.

> every IP error, every packet collision, every foot of wire will effect 
> backup times.

If your network has _any_ errors it needs to be fixed.  Switched 
networks have no collisions.

> Though I am still fairly new to BackupPC, I am extensively experienced 
> with networking. 

If you expect collisions, IP-level errors, or cable-related problems, 
you are doing it wrong.  These things happen but they indicate something 
is broken.

> I suggest you measure transfer times on your local 
> system to a ramdisk rsyncing your /etc directory over a about 100 times 
> and then do the same thing rsyncing  something to a ramdisk on a remote 
> server mount via nfs.  you will see that on the local system, you can 
> sync that directory to ram 100 times in around 1 second or maybe even 
> less than that while on the remote ramdisk it takes up to 3 seconds.  
> this is taking average disk latency of something like 8ms and reducing 
> it to nanoseconds and still resulting in a 3 fold increase.  imaging the 
> effects of NFS adding full milliseconds to each file.

Agreed, a test running rsync with local and NetApp mounted destinations 
would be a good thing.

> as far as putting a monitoring solution on a production server.  what is 
> the point?

Machines take a certain amount of rack real estate, power, and 
administrative work to install/update/repair.

>  the monitoring solution likely has a primary goal of 
> instructing you when a server or disk goes down but if the machine it 
> sits on goes down it cant tell you.

If an operator is watching the cacti or nagios screens, he'll know right 
away when the auto-refresh gives a server error.

-- 
   Les Mikesell
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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