On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:11:58 -0800, Rich Ater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Gilberto: > >And I would say is that people like Khalid Abul Fadl [aren't] an > >exception to what I"m talking about he's an example. There are > >certainly Muslims who are looking at the sources of the religion > >differently and starting to "reform". Amina Wadud would be another. > >There are also fairly traditional scholars from Western backgrounds > >who are just sensitive to certain issues and are gradually using > >traditional methodologies in modern situations and are better at > >communicating and articulating Islamic principles to modern Western > >audiences. None of these people are saying the Quran is outdated. > Gilberto, > Here we agree. I'm not saying it is outdated either. I would agree > with your thoughts on changes being horizontal rather than vertcal and > I'll answer your other posting in a day or so when I have time to do it > justice. Gilberto: > >But there are Bahais who, for example, would say that the Quran isn't > >suitable for the modern age because it promotes unfair treatment of > >women. That's what I would call "calling God a sexist pig". I would > >rather read the Quran in different ways and say that it continues to > >be valid. Rich: > >If Baha'is take up this argument, I would say it is an oversimplification, > >and like other oversimplifications, is wrong. God forbid that such things be > >said. The Qur'an will never be invalid, we believe that some social > >teachings have been superceded, Gilberto: But aren't some of these social teachings actually found in the Quran? And if so, why do you think they have been superceded? Rich: I would like to continue this conversation at greater length in a day or so. It is nice talking with you. Gilberto: Same here. Peace Gilberto "My people are hydroponic" __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
