In Gilberto's defense, I believe that Umar actually deferred the paying of the jizya in many instances.
Rich

Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:34:27 -0800 (PST), Ahang Rabbani
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 
  
You ought to be kidding!  "Jizya" was a tax imposed on minority religions 
as a way to harass and contain them, and to ensure they were kept  
economically dirt poor! 
I have lived in many parts of the world with Muslim majority and in all those
places the tyranny of Muslims towards the minority groups was most evident.
    


Gilberto:
>From what I've read, the amount of jizya varied alot in Islamic
history. At some points it was large, at some points it was small and
nominal. The best explanation I've heard for it is that it literally
was protection-money in the sense that non-Muslims would be exempt
from jihad but they still benefitted from protection by the state so
they gave money to compensate for it. When non-Muslims participated in
jihad they would often be exempted from the jizya. I would certainly
admit that it has the potential to be abused (virtually all rules do)
but jizya actually is ordained in the Quran, so if you really think it
is necessarily a form of harrassment and tyranny then you should take
it up with the author.

Peace

Gilberto

  
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