The Baha'i Studies Listserv Just warfare is in the context of collective security, in order to stop an aggressor. Very different from religious warfare (jihad) or holy war. Jihad is quite ugly and unholy, and its use is to force people into accepting your religion. Categorically abolished, forbidden, and abrogated in the Baha'i Faith.
There is a big difference between raiding a trading caravan to provoke a war and just war theory. What `Abdu'l-Baha endorses is the defensive wars in early Islam. But there were offensive raids, etc. too. Iskandar Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®, typed with fat fingers on a small device. -----Original Message----- From: Gilberto Simpson <gilberto.simp...@gmail.com> Sender: <bounce-549191-2080...@list.jccc.edu>Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 14:41:15 To: Baha'i Studies<bahai-st@list.jccc.edu> Reply-To: "Baha'i Studies" <bahai-st@list.jccc.edu> Subject: Re: Stealth Jihad The Baha'i Studies Listserv The Bahai Faith clearly endorses the military actions of Muhammad and the early Muslims (for example, the section on Muhammad in Some Answered Questions) or the actions of Imam Husayn on the battlefield. And we've already discussed the concept of "righteous warfare" which exists in the Bahai Faith. On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Iskandar Hai, M.D. <iskandar....@gmail.com> wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > > So, are you saying that the Baha'i Faith endorses Jihad? > Baha'u'llah clearly abrogated religious warfare, jihad. That's condemnation, > for now and into the future. > On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Susan Maneck <sman...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> The Baha'i Studies Listserv >> > about the existence of vioelnce in banu-Qurazah incident and He decried >> > and >> > condemned it. >> >> He did not condemn it. He indicated He was broken-hearted by it >> despite the fact it was in accordance with Divine Justice. >> >> __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:gilberto.simp...@gmail.com > Unsubscribe: send a blank email to > mailto:leave-549181-68452.e157d5dc5efabb63696f251595c88...@list.jccc.edu > Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to > ly...@list.jccc.edu > Or subscribe: > http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st > Baha'i Studies is available through the following: > Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu > Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st > News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st > Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net > New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:iskandar....@gmail.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-549191-2080565.74e62800577573ae18970b78170ff...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-549208-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu