I agree! It's been tried many times before - usually covertly. In fact I'd have to say that at least 75% of the problems in Central and South America were the result of just that. Anyway... good post..
Anisa Abd el Fattah wrote: > Kaukab, one of the pundits said what you have been saying today. I > don't remember who said it, but they said that the US wants to try to > split Taliban between moderates and hardliners. This is an old, old > strategy that never works. > > Anisa > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Linda G. Richard > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Wa alaykum salaam Brother Kaukab, > > Thank you for your explanation. As for your magazine, you are > right. I do not read it as much as I'd like to. I have the same > situation though, with my website freedetainees.org > <http://freedetainees.org>. I see people talking about those > issues with surprise and I always think - if they'd only been > following along they would know! I am usually so busy on keeping > up with detainee news that I rarely get time for much else. > However, I have a day tomorrow - and I will try and catch up! > > shukran for the reminder! > > > > > kaukab siddique wrote: >> Dear sis. Taliba >> asalamu alaikum >> >> I tried to explain this to Sis. Anisa before. >> Obama is very sophisticated. He is not planning to talk to the >> Taliban but to former Taliban. The move is going through the >> Saudis. The purpose is to split the Taliban and thus isolate >> al-Qaida. >> Mullah Umar, leader of the Islamic resistance, has rejected any >> peace talks as long as occupation forces are in the country. >> I guess you don't read my Internet magazine New Trend otherwise >> you would know all this. >> >> www.newtrendmag.org <http://www.newtrendmag.org> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> To: [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:26:06 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [bangla-vision] OK for US to talk to Taliban but not >> Hamas? >> >> So true! Aameen! >> >> Abu Zahrin Abu Bakar wrote: >> >> they want to talk to taliban because they are fighting a >> losing war but no >> talking to Hamas , non of their concern , except they are >> real hypocrites, >> not able to differentiate between freedom fighters(Hamas) , >> and zionist war mongerers >> at the expense of the American tax payers, they are blind in >> the eyes as well in the hearts.unless to morrow they revert >> to islam then only they will see the light and the truth , >> pray for them to see the light, ameen! >> >> --- On *Mon, 3/23/09, Anisa Abd el Fattah >> /<[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>/* wrote: >> >> >> From: Anisa Abd el Fattah <[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [bangla-vision] OK for US to talk to Taliban >> but not Hamas? >> To: [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 12:00 PM >> >> The real hypocrisy and truth is that our government >> claims that the Taliban and Al Qadea murdered 3000 >> Americans on Sept. 11, 2001, yet they are willing to talk >> to them. Hamas is a resistance organization that is >> fighting for the very existence of the Palestinian >> people, who has never done anything to the US, yet we >> call them terrorists. This makes it clear who is running >> US foreign policy. We can talk to the Taliban because >> they are goyim who kill goyim. We cannot talk to Hamas >> because they are goyim who fight Zionist Jews the so >> called chosen people. If you don't think that the US and >> Europe are under Zionist rule, think again. >> >> Anisa >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:01 AM, liz allen >> <spktruthtopower@ yahoo.com >> <http:///mc/[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Well thats because you have Hillary Clinton, and >> Dennis Ross...making sure there is never a meeting >> with the democratically elected government.. >> ..Hamas! Taliban has no government, never elected to >> anything...more double standards... Mr. President. >> >> ----- Forwarded Message ---- >> *From:* Anisa Abd el Fattah <anisaab...@gmail. com >> <http:///mc/[email protected]>> >> *To:* Anisa Abd el Fattah <anisaab...@gmail. com >> <http:///mc/[email protected]>> >> *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2009 10:14:03 AM >> *Subject:* [AmeriConscience] OK for US to talk to >> Taliban but not Hamas? >> >> >> OK to talk to the Taliban but not Hamas? - by Osama >> Abu Katta >> Date: 22 / 03 / 2009 Time: 15: 09 >> http://www.maannews .net/en/index. php?opr=ShowDeta >> ils&ID=36611 >> >> <http://www.maannews.net/en/index.php?opr=ShowDetails&ID=36611> >> ????? ???? >> >> <http://www.maannews.net/en/index.php?opr=ShowDetails&ID=36611#>????? >> ???? >> >> <http://www.maannews.net/en/index.php?opr=ShowDetails&ID=36611#> >> >> >> <http://www.maanimages.com/index.php?opr=Details&ID=56261> >> >> [Ma'anImages] >> >> US President Obama said throughout his campaign that >> he would meet with his Iranian counterpart. At the >> time, Senator Hillary Clinton opposed him and >> suggested that this was naïve. >> >> Meanwhile, reports from London talked about a line of >> communication or dialogue between Hizbullah and >> British officials, a European parliamentary >> delegation recently met with members of Hamas' >> political leadership in exile in Damascus to discuss >> ways to end the group's international isolation, and >> the media also reported that the White House did not >> rule out negotiations with the Taliban. >> >> In an obvious contradiction to this flow of American >> and Western diplomacy, Secretary of State Hillary >> Clinton made it clear to Palestinian President >> Mahmoud Abbas that the promised financial aid to Gaza >> is conditioned on prohibiting any access to this aid >> by Hamas. Moreover Clinton made it clear that Hamas >> must comply with the Quartet's demands, mainly that >> Hamas must acknowledge Israel's right to exist, >> before joining a unity government and having access >> to the US aid. >> >> Hamas is standing at a critical junction and facing >> mounting pressure to make some time-sensitive >> decisions on a wide range of issues. Recovering from >> the Gaza war, breaking the siege on Gaza, >> negotiations with Israel on a long-term truce, >> negotiations on a prisoner swap and Fatah-Hamas >> reconciliation talks are all urgent and sensitive >> negotiations, especially in light of Israeli >> political developments and its government changes. >> The stakes are high for Hamas but the price is just >> as high. Any compromises to be made by Hamas will >> assuredly mean a significant change in the political >> map of the region. >> >> Hamas' compliance with the Quartet's conditions could >> open the door for the movement to take part in a >> Palestinian national unity government that is able to >> deal with the international community and end the >> siege, which could facilitate and perhaps even speed >> up the Palestinian national reconciliation process as >> a whole. >> >> A national unity government is without a doubt a >> pressing popular national Palestinian demand that >> Hamas is very aware of and would give Hamas >> legitimacy as well as grounds to work in the West >> Bank. Compliance with the Quartet's conditions would >> also mean giving Hamas access to the international >> stage, something Hamas has been eager to achieve for >> a long time. Such a compromise, though, would at the >> same time cost Hamas dearly if it is made without >> approval from Syria and Iran, who are considered >> Hamas' backbone and its strongest supporters in the >> region. >> >> Analysts think the key to any advancement in the >> internal Palestinian situation on one hand and the >> Palestinian- Israeli situation on the other must be >> parallel to regional negotiations that involve Syria >> and Iran. >> >> One factor that strengthens Hamas' negotiating power >> with Fatah is the fact that the new Israeli >> government is hardcore right wing, and refuses a >> two-state solution to the Palestinian- Israeli >> conflict, promotes the expansion of settlements and >> rejects any negotiations on Jerusalem. Such an >> Israeli government undermines Abbas and the rest of >> the "Arab moderate leaders," and automatically >> empowers Hamas and other resistance groups in the >> West Bank and Gaza. >> >> Critics of the US policy of not negotiating with >> Hamas ask: Is Hamas more of a threat to the US than >> the Taliban and Iran? How can the US justify talking >> to one group categorized as a terrorist entity but >> not another one? >> >> Media reports from Egypt noted that Egypt has >> dispatched two of its top officials to convince the >> Americans and the Europeans to accept a weaker >> commitment by Hamas to peace with Israel for the sake >> of forging a united Palestinian government. The US >> and Europe will have to decide soon on the nature of >> the relationship they want to have with Hamas and the >> upcoming Israeli government keeping in mind that both >> were democratically elected. >> >> Refusing to talk to Hamas while embracing a >> right-wing Israeli government would be considered an >> early blow to President Osama's efforts to send a >> different message to the Middle East than did his >> predecessor George W. Bush. >> >> >> >> >> Print Preview >> >> <http://www.maannews.net/en/index.php?opr=ShowDetails&Do=Print&ID=36611> >> >> Send to friend >> >> <http://www.maannews.net/en/index.php?opr=ShowDetails&Do=Friend&Op=FriendSend&ID=36611> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Linda >> *http://freedetainees.org <http://freedetainees.org/> >> "If we shadows have offended, Think but this, >> and all is mended, That you have but slumber'd >> here While these visions did appear..." >> - William Shakespeare >> * >> >> > > -- > Linda > *http://freedetainees.org <http://freedetainees.org/> > "If we shadows have offended, Think but this, > and all is mended, That you have but slumber'd > here While these visions did appear..." > - William Shakespeare > * > > > > > -- Linda *http://freedetainees.org <http://freedetainees.org/> "If we shadows have offended, Think but this, and all is mended, That you have but slumber'd here While these visions did appear..." - William Shakespeare * --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "bangla-vision" group. 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