Hi Martyn,
Go to [1]www.spotify.com where you can download the player onto your
computer.
There are then two options - you can go for the free version which has
occasional ads between tracks, or the paid version that is ad-free.
Being a Scotsman I put up with the ads!
Best wishes,
Bill
From: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
To: William Samson <willsam...@yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2012, 11:17
Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] What lutes for 17th century French music
was: Ne Anthony Bailes CD
Thanks Bill - how does one access spotify?
rgds
M--- On Fri, 16/3/12, William Samson <willsam...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
From: William Samson <willsam...@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] What lutes for 17th century French music
was: Ne Anthony Bailes CD
To: "Martyn Hodgson" <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Friday, 16 March, 2012, 10:38
I just found that this album can be listened to on Spotify if you have
access to it. It's free to use in the UK, but I can't say how things
are elsewhere.
Bill
From: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>;
Edward Martin <e...@gamutstrings.com>; William Samson
<willsam...@yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2012, 9:04
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] What lutes for 17th century French music was:
Ne Anthony Bailes CD
Hi Bill, This is indeed a fascinating subject (hence the change of
heading). I am told variously that the 1722 Wenger has a string length
of 76 or 77cm. It may at some stage have been converted (from a
gallichon perhaps?) to a 13 course lute before the present
manifestation as an 11 course instrument . Again see earlier editions
of Lute News for more information/views. The preferred instruments at
the time (ie converted early 16th cenury Italian lutes) generally had
a string length of 68 +/-2cm. See Lute News 94, page 28 which outlines
the principle sources of evidence for the size of lutes preferred in
mid/late 17th century France). But bear in mind (as Lute News notes)
"Of course, this is not to say that it is 'wrong' to play the music on
such a large lute and, indeed, the French repertoire whilst being
challenging for interpretation (precise phrasing, accent,
articulation, mannerisms and the like), is much less demanding for the
left hand and a large instrument is clearly quite possible: it's more
a question of what the Old Ones themselves might have expected".
Incidentally, I make no comment one way or the other on Anthony
Bailes's performance. regards Martyn PS the CD of music played on
this instrument which I reported as being out over a year ago in fact
refers to a previous CD played on the same instrument......... --- On
Fri, 16/3/12, William Samson <[2]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
From: William Samson <[3]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk> Subject:
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ne Anthony Bailes CD To: "Martyn Hodgson"
<[4]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>, "[5]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu"
<[6]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>, "Edward Martin"
<[7]e...@gamutstrings.com> Date: Friday, 16 March, 2012, 8:33 Hi
Martyn, Do you know what the string length of the Wenger is?
Bill From: Martyn Hodgson <[1][8]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
To: [2][9]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Edward Martin
<[3][10]e...@gamutstrings.com> Sent: Friday, 16 March 2012, 8:08
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ne Anthony Bailes CD Dear Edward,
Thank you for this notice: in fact this CD has been out in Europe
for over a year. Unfortunately, as Anthony Bailes later
agreed (see letters in Lute News from No 94, August 2010
on), the large Wenger lute used on the recording (if indeed it
was built as a lute and not a gallichon - the instruments for
which Wenger was best known) is not the most suitable (or
appropriate) type of instrument for playing the mid/late 17th
century French repertoire. As you'll know, conversions of early 16th
century Italian instruments were then the most highly regarded.
Indeed, in Lute News 95 Anthony Bailes writes: '......a lute the
size of the Wenger should not find acceptance as being ideal for
the performance of 17th century French lute music,......'
regards Martyn --- On Fri, 16/3/12, Edward Martin
<[1][4][11]e...@gamutstrings.com> wrote: From: Edward Martin
<[2][5][12]e...@gamutstrings.com> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Ne
Anthony Bailes CD To: [3][6][13]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Friday, 16 March, 2012, 2:50 Dear Ones, For
those on the list who enjoy well played 11-course French baroque
lute, there is a new release by Abthony Bailes, on the Ramee
label. it is entitled, 'Une Douceur violente", and it contains works
of Mouton and Gallot. He recorded this program on his authentic
lute by Georgi Ferdinand Wenger, Augsburg, 1722. The catalog
number is RAM 1104, and it is available in the USA, in usual
outlets. This is an announcement, not a review. The instrument
is a large one, and the pitch is consequently quite low, at a70,
in essence making it in a b-minor tuning. Beautiful sound and
playing, highly recommended. ed Edward Martin
2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812
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