>Dears,
>
>Good points. I have envisioned, for the past 25 or so years, how might be
>the best way to draw carbon out of the atmosphere. Presently I'm growing
>corn as a soil improvment crop to add carbon in organized (not necessarily
>stable but lasting  forms to the soil, i.e. the carbon stays in the soil
>even though it changes its forms.) forms and add it back to our soils. Corn
>is a C4 plant, meaning it is amongst the best photopynthesisers. I can't
>grow sugar cane here because of the winters or I wqould be experimenting
>with sugar cane.
>
>Trees change the ecology and bring the biology of the soil up into the
>trunk and canopy of the forest. So they actually deplete the soil of life
>and send it up into the stand. Maybe this DOES actually  give off carbon
>dioxide initinally
>
>But no matter, corn grabs up so much more carbon dioxide in a single year
>it isn't funny, so why try to grow trees other than stable aesthetics? Grow
>corn. Or grow hemp, which is comparable in sequestering carbon dioxide, and
>preferable if you want fiber. Such good fiber. The reason, so far as I can
>tell, that trees are in favor is that inputs are so low you could wait
>forever. Well, the same is true of field broadcasting. If field
>broadcasting is used other inputs would be comparably low. People should
>investigate and not just accept the current global ideas.
>
>Best,
>Hug

This was the comment. hope it survivest

Berst,
Hugh
>
>
>
>
>>Dear Friends,
>>
>>Here is the first of two articles that were just forwarded to the
>>Ecological Economics forum.
>>
>>Tree farms won't halt climate change
>>
>>09:32 28 October 02
>>Fred Pearce, Valencia
>>
>>The Kyoto Protocol to halt climate change is based on a scientific fallacy,
>>according to the first results of CarboEurope, a Europe-wide programme that
>>has pioneered research into the carbon budget.
>>
>>The protocol says that countries can help meet their targets for cutting
>>emissions of greenhouse gases over the next decade by planting forests to
>>soak up carbon dioxide. But the soil in these "Kyoto forests" will actually
>>release more carbon than the growing trees absorb in the first 10 years, the
>>new research shows.
>>
>>"Countries will be able to claim carbon credits for the forests. But that
>>won't reflect what is happening in the atmosphere," says Riccardo Valentini
>>of the University of Tuscia in Viterbo, Italy. He presented the CarboEurope
>>data last week in Valencia, Spain.
>>
>>The project's revelations could embarrass governments now meeting in New
>>Delhi to discuss implementation of the Kyoto Protocol. Earlier in October,
>>Italy announced plans to achieve between 10 and 40 per cent of its emission
>>reductions target for 2012 through forest planting. But now its own
>>scientists are warning that these sinks might not work.
>>
>>
>>CO2 surge
>>
>>
>>The problem is soils. Forest soils and the organic matter buried in them
>>typically contain three to four times as much carbon as the vegetation
>>above. CarboEurope's researchers have discovered that when ground is cleared
>>for forest planting, rotting organic matter in the soil releases a surge of
>>CO2 into the air.
>>
>>This release will exceed the CO2 absorbed by growing trees for at least the
>>first 10 years, they say. Only later will the uptake of carbon by the trees
>>begin to offset the losses from soils. In fact, says CarboEurope chairman
>>Han Dolman of the Free University Amsterdam, some new forests planted on
>>wet, peaty soils will never absorb as much carbon as they spit out.
>>
>>The world's densest network of CO2 monitoring devices has revealed that
>>Europe's forests are absorbing up to 400 million tonnes a year, or 30 per
>>cent of the continent's emissions.
>>
>>Researchers once assumed that most of this came from young forests, since
>>old forests were thought to be in equilibrium with the atmosphere - sucking
>>up as much gas as they spew out. But, says Valentini, old forests actually
>>accumulate more carbon than young plantations. This suggests that
>>conservation of old forests is a better policy for tackling global warming
>>than planting new ones.
>>
>>
>>Perverse incentive
>>
>>
>>But the Kyoto Protocol takes none of this into account. "Besides ignoring
>>soils, it has no measures to stop deforestation," says Valentini. Instead,
>>it seems to give countries a perverse incentive to chop down existing
>>natural forests and replace them with plantations.
>>
>>"They will be able to claim carbon credits for the new planting, while in
>>reality releasing huge amounts of CO2 into the air," says Valentini. "There
>>is nothing in the protocol to stop this."
>>
>>"If the politicians had known in 1997 what we know now, they would never
>>have agreed to its rules on carbon sinks - at least, I hope they wouldn't,"
>>says Dolman.
>>
>>
>>09:32 28 October 02
>>
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