"Paranoia strikes deep. Into your life it will creep.
It starts when you're always afraid. Step outta line, the man come and take
you away."

"Stop children, what's that sound, everybody look what's going down...."

"Find, your cost of freedom....buried in the ground. Mother earth will
swallow  you. Lay your body down."

Yeah, let us make it harder and harder for people to access our thoughts and
words, gosh, wouldn't it be awful if they read them and thought about them?
Free speech should only be for fair weather, when the going gets tough we
should all hush up, eh?

Hide your love away, baby....

Maybe while you are hiding away the history of the list, you should change
the name from BDNOW! to bd, uh, maybe, sometime....

No GUTS, no GLORY....'twas ever thus....

(Of course if you want to start an 'inner circle' private email discussion
for people who are unwilling to speak out to the internet, you can always do
so....till they come for you...)

"Get up, Stand up! Stand up for your rights! Get up, Stand up! Don't give up
the fight!"

And who could forget:

"The junta broke the fingers, on Victor Jara's hands, and said to the gentle
poet, play your guitar now, if you can, so Victor started singing, until
they shot his body down...you can kill a man, but not a song when it's sung
the whole world round..."

Of course I wouldn't want to credit any of the authors of these words, since
the small chance that the Office of Total Information Awareness doesn't know
who they are would then be obliterated. (Ha ha!)

Either stand up and encourage others to do likewise, or close the shop and
slink away. Really there is little point holding an internet discussion and
keeping it secret, what the heck are you thinking?

So, self edit, delete any posts their authors want deleted, and carry on. Or
not. Just don't pretend to be courageous if you don't.

My two cents,

Frank Teuton--hopes he didn't make anyone 'uncomfortable'.....;-)

'We must all hang together, or we shall surely hang separately.' ---Benjamin
Franklin, who had mad King George in his day too....;-)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Diver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: Personal Security vs National Security


> I don't have time to read through all the posts,
> but I got far enough to voice my opinion.
>
> Allan, sorry but I don't think much of your idea
> to move BD-Now to a private space and
> to expunge the earlier archives.
>
> I don't think much of YahooGroups, either.
>
> Yet, I will certainly join the private group and
> post occassionally if that is what you decide to
> do.
>
> The archives are very valuable and they are quick.
>
> A person has a whole library of information available
> by organizing links to the posts.  The archives have
> convenient links instead of those convoluted links.
>
> If it is possible, keep the archives at csf.colorado.edu
>
> There are stranger and more far out things on the
> web than Steiner, BD, radionics, and trees as broadcasters.
>
> Some people lament that acceptance and widespread
> adoption of biodynamics is behind the times.  BD-Now
> offers valuable knowledge and technical support for BD.
>
> Steve Diver
>

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