Dear Arjen,
Though I consider my farming biodynamic in the best sense of the word, I do
not have Demeter certification and do not intend to ever get it. Not only
is it expensive and meaningless to me, but I feel Anne Mendenhall should
resign after trademarking the term "biodynamic" and then immediately
forbidding some within our movement to use the term unless they were
Demeter certified. I'm waiting for her to sue me for use of the term
biodynamic.
I might add, however, that so far as I know the Demeter Association in the
US does not certify the use of the Steiner remedies in any homeopathic
forms, no matter Lily Kolisko's work (dilution and succussion up to 60x) or
my own use of Malcolm Rae homeopathic cards and radionic instruments.
Nevertheless thousands and thousands of acres of crops are grown in the US,
Canada, Mexico and Australia with the Steiner agricultural remedies used
homeopathically and radionically. Often enough the quality of these crops
is equal to or surpasses the quality of crops grown with the traditional
stirring and spraying applications of Steiner's remedies.
The truth is many farmers would not use the BD preps at all if they had to
stir and spray the old way. Then again here in the US many who stir and
spray the old way simply are not interested in Demeter certification, and
probably will never be. So you figure.
So few consumers in the US have any idea of what Demeter certification
might mean that the issue is moot here anyway. However, in Germany I
understand the Demeter symbol does indeed mean something to a significant
number of consumers. I wonder if there is any interest in coming to a
meeting of the minds on these things or whether the European Demeter
organization will continue to ignore homeopathy and radionics?
I would have to agree with Manfred Klett that your BD farmers must and
should feel free to violate this absurd law and put it to the test. I think
he is quite correct in taking this position. But that will have its costs
even though it must be done. So good luck. I support those who violate this
bad law with both my prayers and my heartfelt well wishes. Sorry I don't
have any cash to help out with.
But if you want to do BD without breaking the law? Yes, it can be done, and
it is both easy and very, very effective.
Best,
Hugh Lovel
>A lot of European bdgrowers use the Demeter-symbol and get a higher price
>for their products than for ordinary organic products. Part of the
>requirements for using the Demeter-symbol is the ('traditional') use of the
>preps, not radionically applied but physically stirring and spraying.
>Manfred Klett (the head of the agricultural section in the
>Goetheanum-Dornach) suggests '... in the meantime we have to feel free to
>act illegally...'
>The Demeter certification bodies in Europe are strict: no application of
>preps: no Demeter symbol. I knew a bdfarmer in Germany who invented his own
>preparation and applied it succesfully; he wanted to use it in stead of
>Steiner's preps. The reaction of the Demeterbund was: if you don't use
>Steiner's preps, than it is not Demeter, no matter how well his prep works
>or any discussion.
>I was just wondering what the attitude of the Demeter certification bodies
>in USA, OZ, NZ is towards radionically applied preps/ Malcolm Rae cards,
>etc. Or does nobody carry a Demeter symbol there?
>Arjen
>
>
>At 21:57 19/06/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>>How does this help if one cannot make all the BD preps except Valerian? The
>>new EU rules are no animals parts to be used for prep. making. Same problem
>>for anthr. homeopathic medicine.
>>Michael
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Hugh Lovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:18 PM
>>Subject: Re: Dornachian reactions?
>>
>>
>> > Arjen,
>> >
>> > The best of health to you for visiting our e-mail list. It has bit a bit
>> > unfortunate that our English language e-mail list has left out Germans.
>>You
>> > should be full participants, but there is the language barrierier.
>> >
>> > So now you want to know about how we can circumvent these rulings.?
>> >
>> > One way would be working withn Malcolm Rae cards and English radionic
>> > instruments of the biodynamic preparations in homeopathic usages. Please
>> > inquire further.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Hugh
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >Hallo,
>> > >
>> > >It is really interesting stuff that people are working with here,
>> > >especially the cosmic pipes, homeopathic peppering and use radionic
>> > >instruments and cards. According to the feedback on this list, it seems
>> > >like these things work as good, or even better, than the original thing.
>>At
>> > >the same time we struggle in Europe with legislation that prohibits the
>> > >making of the preparations, but the official point of view (regarding the
>> > >ban on burying animal material) from the Goetheanum is (quote Manfred
>> > >Klett) '... in the meantime we have to feel free to act illegally...'
>> > >We only need one malignent journalist to broadcast these 'illegal'
>> > >practices into public and along with some juicy allegations we can throw
>> > >away our dear Demeter symbol.
>> > >I would be interested to know the different points of view of the
>> > >respective BDAA's in USA, OZ and NZ, as apparently there is a much more
>> > >free approach to the use of the preps. Any contact with Dornach? Has Hugh
>> > >already delivered a lecture at the Landbautagung?
>> > >
>> > >Arjen Huese
>> > >
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