You can measure power all you want but if there is no way to reset the
processor what good is the device in a remote location. I have had
things on a remote mountain top at a transmitter site in winter that if
things were unresponsive
would ruin  2 or 3 days trying to get there to reset the device on a
snowmobile.

Fail-safe computers are desirable. Hangs with no way to reboot a system
are not.

On 12/2/2015 7:58 PM, John Syne wrote:
> We can speculate all day long, but measuring the 5V current
> consumption will tell us a lot more about the power mode state than
> anything else.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
>
>
>
>> On Dec 2, 2015, at 3:19 PM, William Hermans <yyrk...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:yyrk...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> If the software is locked up, the USR LEDs would not cycle as if the
>> system is attempting to restart.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:08 PM, John Syne <john3...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:john3...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     From what Gerald said previously in this thread:
>>
>>     "The reset is an input pin read by the processor, not actually a
>>     HW power reset. If the SW is locked up, this could happen.”
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>     On Dec 2, 2015, at 2:55 PM, William Hermans <yyrk...@gmail.com
>>>     <mailto:yyrk...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     If the board was in sleep, then why wont the reset button reset
>>>     ? Passed that, why would the USR cycle( flash on then off ) then
>>>     nothing ?
>>>
>>>     On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 3:47 PM, John Syne <john3...@gmail.com
>>>     <mailto:john3...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Sounds to me that like BBB has gone into sleep mode and
>>>         there is no trigger to wake it up. Is there a way to measure
>>>         the current consumption? 
>>>
>>>         Regards,
>>>         John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>         On Dec 2, 2015, at 2:40 PM, William Hermans
>>>>         <yyrk...@gmail.com <mailto:yyrk...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         One more thing of note. I do not run systemd - Ever. I run
>>>>         SYSV as an init daemon. I only mention this as I think
>>>>         Robert said something about systemd lessening this issue.
>>>>
>>>>         On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Gerald Coley
>>>>         <ger...@beagleboard.org <mailto:ger...@beagleboard.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             Hmm, not sure what is going on. Sounds like the
>>>>             processor has stopped running the code and halted but
>>>>             it forgot to turn off the lights.
>>>>
>>>>             Gerald
>>>>
>>>>             On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:26 PM, William Hermans
>>>>             <yyrk...@gmail.com <mailto:yyrk...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                 Gerald, it's like the board hangs at power down,
>>>>                 but I can not be 100% sure. The reason why I
>>>>                 "assume" it's at power down, is that the heartbeat
>>>>                 blink stops, but the rest of the LEDs stay on, and
>>>>                 the ethernet port light still blinks.
>>>>
>>>>                 The board I experienced this on last night is an
>>>>                 Element14 RevC, but I do also have a circuitco A5A
>>>>                 that exhibits the same thing.
>>>>
>>>>                 On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Gerald Coley
>>>>                 <ger...@beagleboard.org
>>>>                 <mailto:ger...@beagleboard.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                     Is this on power up or is this state happening
>>>>                     some time later? If it is on power up, then the
>>>>                     power supply most likely is the issue based on
>>>>                     the ramp requirements of the PMIC. 
>>>>
>>>>                     If the power LED is on, then the PMIC is on and
>>>>                     ramped up. That is why I asked for the voltages.
>>>>
>>>>                     It also could be a boot pin read issue where it
>>>>                     misreads the boot pins. If that is the case you
>>>>                     should see that from the serial port.
>>>>
>>>>                     Gerald
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                     On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:15 PM, William Hermans
>>>>                     <yyrk...@gmail.com <mailto:yyrk...@gmail.com>>
>>>>                     wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                         For what it's worth Gerald, this happens
>>>>                         with nothing connected to the board as
>>>>                         well. This just happened to me last night
>>>>                         after issuing a reboot command from the
>>>>                         command line.
>>>>
>>>>                         I remember at some point you all were
>>>>                         talking about something about the "ramp
>>>>                         time" of the PMIC or something.
>>>>
>>>>                         On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Gerald
>>>>                         Coley <ger...@beagleboard.org
>>>>                         <mailto:ger...@beagleboard.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                             I would start with your cape design and
>>>>                             try and rule that out first.
>>>>
>>>>                             The reset is an input pin read by the
>>>>                             processor, not actually a HW power
>>>>                             reset. If the SW is locked up, this
>>>>                             could happen.
>>>>
>>>>                             If you hold the power button for a 8
>>>>                             seconds or more the board should power
>>>>                             cycle.
>>>>
>>>>                             When it is in this state, what do the
>>>>                             voltages read?
>>>>
>>>>                             Gerald
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                             On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 3:54 PM,
>>>>                             Jonathan Ross <jonr...@nephology.org
>>>>                             <mailto:jonr...@nephology.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                                 Once in a blue moon one of my
>>>>                                 beaglebones will get into a state
>>>>                                 where it has power (the power LED
>>>>                                 is lit), but it is not booted.
>>>>                                 Normally this would be fine, just
>>>>                                 hit the power button to reset. But
>>>>                                 in this weird state the power
>>>>                                 button does nothing. The reset
>>>>                                 button does nothing.
>>>>                                 I checked the power and reset
>>>>                                 button pins on the header, the
>>>>                                 power was low, the reset was high.
>>>>                                 The only way to get the board out
>>>>                                 of this state was to pull the 5V power.
>>>>                                 I'm using a KL16 on a cape to do a
>>>>                                 watchdog on the BB, and reboot it
>>>>                                 via power and/or reset buttons on
>>>>                                 the header if the BB stops sending
>>>>                                 checkins over uart. This has been
>>>>                                 working great, except for the rare
>>>>                                 case where the board ends up in
>>>>                                 this state where the power and
>>>>                                 reset buttons are not functioning.
>>>>                                 Any ideas how the BB could get into
>>>>                                 this state, and if there's any
>>>>                                 other way to force a reboot other
>>>>                                 than physically pulling the 5v power?
>>>>                                 Thanks,
>>>>                                 JR
>>>>
>>>>                                 -- 
>>>>

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