Is it mean to give a tranquilizer to a human prior to a traumatic event
(like surgery or dental work)? Of course not! Same with your dog. It is an
act of compassion to help assist with a difficult situation. You are not
drugging him forever - just enough to help him cope.

I think Bennington will thank you!

Liz Steinweg & The Crew
Blue Moon's Baloo Berry Torte "Balou" (11/06/95)
Bobby Sox (husky-x 10/31/93)
Rio & Sahara (the "Rat Cats")
and in loving memory of my 1st BMD - Toby (6/29/97 - 6/30/00 lost to MH)
Colorado Springs CO

http://www.ccrtiming.com/personal/personal.htm


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Freya Steinmeyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 4:05 PM
Subject: drugged BMDs on the 4th of July


Any advice on BMDs who don't like 4th of July?  I don't know what to do with
my Bennington.  Tranquilizers have come to mind; however, it seems so mean.
Unfortunately, our house is very close to a fireworks show (extreme sound
and sight).  I have a feeling Bennington will be uncomfortable no matter how
closed up and locked up the house is.  He had a bad experience last year...
too close for comfort.  Any alternatives other than drugging Bennington?


Freya M. Steinmeyer





>From: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: BERNER-L digest 4478
>Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:01:06 CDT
>
>     BERNER-L Digest 4478
>
>Topics covered in this issue include:
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>   1) Dog Fancy
> by Leslie MacLaren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   2) RE: 41 brands of dog food contain anesthetizing agent
> by Rose Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   3) RE: Pee spots in yard
> by Rose Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   4) RE: Puppy biting own tail
> by Rose Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   5) RE: bell question
> by Rose Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   6) Help needed for fellow dog lover.
> by Fiona Gordon/Glen Thomason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   7) Helderberg BMDC "A" Match
> by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   8) Frantic Dog!
> by "Brett & Nicole Korensky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   9) help for thunderstorm fear
> by J Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  10) RE: July 4th menu (dog safe!)
> by "Pat Long & Paul Dangel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  11) Pet Owners Seminar
> by "Pat Long & Paul Dangel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  12) Free 4th of July Berner clipart
> by "Dawn or Tim Gabig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  13) Show Results - Billings, MT
> by <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  14) Show Results - Great Falls, MT
> by <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  15) Show Results - Missoula, MT
> by <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  16) Berner? You be the judge!
> by Sarah Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  17) The "I Did It My Way Award"
> by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  18) Cassie Visit!
> by "Jean Cheesman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  19) small brag
> by "LeAnn Zogg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 08:21:48 -0300
>From: Leslie MacLaren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Beautiful Berner Pics in "Dog Fancy" right now, if you haven't seen
>them!
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>Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 07:36:21 -0400
>From: Rose Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: 41 brands of dog food contain anesthetizing agent
>To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Hi Pippa,
>The source of meat meal may well be the same for "natural" foods. In order
>to be truly safe in what one feeds the dog the food would have to certified
>organic and slaughtered for human consumption. Even "organic" livestock are
>euthanised on the farm if they are not fit enough for transportation. Even
>if one chooses to feed raw natural (BARF) there are likely to be residues
>of antibiotics and hormone growth drugs in the meat and bones and then
>there is the pesticide and genetic modified effects on the fruit and
>veggies. Certified organic is the way to go but it is very expensive.
>
>Rose
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>Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 07:49:53 -0400
>From: Rose Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Pee spots in yard
>To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Hi Jayne,
>I have twelve dogs (ten bitches) who are watering my lawn and yes it does
>get brown in places but the heavy rains this spring have revitalised our
>grass and all is green again for a while (middle of hot spell) We do not
>treat our grass with anything, no fertiliser nothing. Its only grass and my
>dogs health comes first:-)
>
>If your lawn area is small and you have nice shrubs (probably won't have
>those for long as Berners are avid gardeners and landscapers:-) then you
>could make an area to train your future puppy to toilet on. Two of my puppy
>owners made an area covered with peastone and for the boys put a tree stump
>for them to lift their leg, worked great and the lawn stayed green. Hose
>down and javex once in a while and all stays fresh:-)
>
>Do not feed any products to the dog that are designed to change the Ph of
>the urine, that is potentially harmful to the dog.
>
>Rose
>
>
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>Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 08:06:38 -0400
>From: Rose Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Puppy biting own tail
>To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Hi Jayne,
>Border collies very quickly develop neurotic behaviors when they don't have
>enough in their lives to occupy them. I would suggest upping his activity
>level, they were bred to work in the borders, which are huge areas of land,
>herding sheep and they do not enjoy confinement. Feeding time as a puppy
>might have been a somewhat frenzied scramble for the dinner with perhaps a
>scrap or two making dinnertime anything other than a pleasurable
>experience.
>I would exercise him more and then try feeding him outside on the grass
>throwing his kibble onto the grass so he has to search for it, or use a
>dispensing treat ball for him to work for his dinner. Also up his obedience
>training and hand feed him and try to have everything calm at mealtimes
>with him sitting beside them. They need to seek out a behaviorist and one
>might find one in their area on the website for the Association of Pet Dog
>Trainers.
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